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    Hello from Ohio. I am a 66 year old who qualified for next summer's Senior Games in Minneapolis for TT and road racing. Though I have had a nice (bike(s) for my adult life, I am new to cycling competition. I am hoping to get some advice here. The weather will be turning soon, and I will rely on a Saturday morning spinning class populated by tri geeks and serious cylists along with torture on a Computrainer/Trainerroad setup in my basement. Between now and next summer, I will be facing the dreaded race wheel upgrade as my TT bike presently has only decent training wheels. Until the state cycling competition this past summer, I had completed several duathlons per year since 2010. Another feature of my story is that I dropped dead on a tennis court in June 2009 when my heart abruptly stopped during a USTA match. Lucky for me, a cardiologist was subbing in for the other team (I was a sub that evening as well-talk about fate). He did world class cpr for over 12 minutes, assisted by a peds intensivist who had finished playing shortly before, until the fire department rescue squad arrived and shocked me twice to restart my heart. A little while later, I was in a cath lab being analyzed by the same doc who just saved my life. Shortly after midnight, I had a x6 bypass surgery. Within weeks, I discovered Dr. Esselstyn's plant-based approach to cardiac disease reversal. Despite the fact that two of the grafts were failed from the start, the diet has enabled me to train myself back to a competitive state for my age group. I split my time between teaching at the local university and pitching in to care for two young grandchildren. I have seen many interesting threads on this forum and look forward to sharing training ideas and gaining insight from others. Click image for larger version.
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    Hi. Have a look at some of the other threads, especially "training for racing".

    What can we help you with?
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    Hi. Have a look at some of the other threads, especially "training for racing".

    What can we help you with?
    I am leaning toward getting Flo wheels for my TT bike (Speed Concept) -rear disk and not sure what size -30, 60, 90- for the front. I would use these for racing and stick to my stock Bontragers for training. I would also like to have a power meter on the TT bike for training and racing and hope that Brim Bros. or something similar emerges for bike to bike and wheel to wheel interchangeability.
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    Hi

    My choice for a power meter was Stages. I have multiple bikes that I can easily swap the cranks between, takes 2 minutes tops. It seems to be consistent which is all I ask for out of a power meter.

    As for wheelsets; I'm sure there are plenty on Ebay right now. A quick search for ZIPP 808 turned up a tonne and RENN 575 there are a few.
    In looking at Flo's aero data the 90 and 60 produce the better drag numbers but I'm not sure how well a 90 vs a 60 vs a 30 or another type of wheel would be in cross winds. I'm sure that some other smart folks will chime in.

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    Welcome madoneboy! I also have qualified for the NSG last summer in Ohio, I'll be in the 60-64 group. I qualified in both the road and TT races although I do not usually compete at a top level in the TT's. Matter of fact I raced the Ohio Senior races with my fixed gear track bike set up in pursuit mode with a rear disk and 5 bladed front wheel. I may have looked tricked put but the single gear produced a lot of hurt that wasn't beneficial.

    As for power meter recommendation. You can make the best judgment based on what you want from the data produced. Training, races, indoor training etc... Every brand/model has benefits and constraints. I use a Power Tap on 30mm training wheels on my road bike for indoor and outdoor training and even a few low key races. The constraint is I have to use the same wheel but I can move it between my road bikes and cross bike. On my track bikes I use the Stages Power Crank that allows a lot of flexibility when changing wheels and bikes since the left crank arm is all that needs switched over. The limiter with the Stages is that I have to use a Dura Ace Track Crankset that is not able to be switched to other crank sets. If I was just getting into power for my road, fixie and mtb I would look into which crankset could be used by all three bikes and probably invest in that direction (SRAM Rival is one model). My brother in law who races the 100 mile NUE x-mtb races just invested in the Garmin pedal system that he will use on his road bike, single speed and fixed gear bikes. His limiter is that he needs a mtb pedal for his mtb races and training rides, however he will spend more time training on other bikes and real time power data is not as important in in mtb racing as HR is. There are several new products slated to hit the market next year that use the crank based method that do not have to be factory installed and will be at a lower price. You may want to look into those too.
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    Hi and welcome. I also qualified for the NSG in 2015 but may not go. I won the gold in the 40K and the bronze in the 20K in 2013. The fields in the 55-59 men were about 65 riders. The older fields were not much smaller. I use an SRM.

    There's lots of power meter info in the 33 as well as the excellent New to Racing thread. Equipment is important but racing experience in the road race fields is much more important. Spin classes will help with fitness but you really need race experience to be competitive. I would encourage you to do as many group rides and early season races as you can. Remember that your field has the top four qualifiers from every state that choose to go. The quality of riders isn't at the USAC Nationals level but it is not a industrial park criterium either.

    Good luck in the offseason and keep us posted.

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    Greetings MB. I too qualified for the SG's and actually plan on going. 55-59. I've done various USAC Nats but never SG's. Should be fun.

    SRM.

    TT wheels I'd suggest a 60 for the front if you are only going to have one arrow in the quiver. If it's so windy you can't use it go down to your training wheel. The difference between a 60 and a 90 is about equal parts speed and getting pushed around by the wind.

    Lots of good advice and help here.

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    Thanks to all for the great suggestions. Allegheny Jet, I may see you out on the roads at some point ( I live in Wadsworth Twp.) as we have a window (closing) of good weather before the retreat to the indoor trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madoneboy View Post
    Thanks to all for the great suggestions. Allegheny Jet, I may see you out on the roads at some point ( I live in Wadsworth Twp.) as we have a window (closing) of good weather before the retreat to the indoor trainer.
    We are practically neighbors! I live between Brunswick and Medina. I do ride South East into your area occasionally but usually ride hills in the Hinckley/Granger area and flatlands in Northern Medina/Southern Lorain Counties. From my front door, flat is West and hills are East. I'll ride outside anytime the weather allows even if I have to ride the cross or mtb and save the trainer or roller days for intervals. I do participate in a twice weekly indoor trainer program in Hudson from December to March.
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    Welcome MB!

    I'm the Village Idiot and female hanger on. Let me tell you, though, the fellas here took me from total newbie two years ago to actually contending late this season. I too have qualified for the 2015 nationals, although I haven't decided whether or not I'll be there. I gathered from your OP that you're a seasoned athlete, so you probably understand the mental game and the fundamentals. The seasoned folks here can certainly help you with cycling specific training, as well as equipment choices.

    Your story about your cardiac issues was scary as well as touching. One word - wow. And, OMG.

    Once again, welcome!
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    May pull the trigger to enter the buy frenzy for Flo's latest release tomorrow afternoon -reminds me of the old-fashioned dept. store sales where folks would rush the display pushing and shoving. Looking at a 60 for the front and disk for the rear- this for my TT bike. Feeling less comfy about paying the freight as I had an unexpected bite in the rear to replace my iPhone which was run over by a semi on the freeway- b/c I had left it on the roof of my Prius as I was deploying my gear for the trip to the U of Akron this morning : (
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