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    Top 10 racing hardtails?

    I want a new bike this year.I'm thinking about building a scandium Rocky Mtn. Vertex up or buying a complete Trek 9.8 and upgrading a few parts.Any other bikes you think I should check out?

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    Get the Rocky Mountain Vertex. Carbon Fiber Mountain Bikes are a very bad idea.
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    I just ordered a 2004 Specialized S-works annodized hardtail. It is supposed to be an awesome frame. According to Specialized the 18" weighs in at 2.9 pounds. Supposively the annodized finish knocks off another ounce or so.

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    Are you getting the complete bike or just the frame?How much is it?

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    How about the Jamis Dragon or the Marin Team? Both are awesome HT's.

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    The frame retails for $1090 on the S-works. I am just getting the frame. I have just about everything else I need to build it up.

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    I'd reccomend a Schwinn Homegrown, but you'd probably have to find it off of eBay or some other used source.

    Poor Schwinn

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    I hear ya Blue Thunder, that is still one of the ht frames made. That and the Fat Chance "Yo Eddy"!

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    LowCel let me know when it's built up and how it rides.The Vertex will cost more than the M5 to build up the way I want.I don't like the downtube routing on the M5 either.
    Anyway let me know how it goes.Thanks.

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    yea i was gonna recommend the s works m5 but if not check out thegiant xtc bikes
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    S-Works are nice but overpriced, they aren't any better than an XTC or Homegrown, people will pay top dollar for a specialized label though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Thunder
    S-Works are nice but overpriced.
    Totally agree but if i won the lottery..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Thunder
    S-Works are nice but overpriced, they aren't any better than an XTC or Homegrown, people will pay top dollar for a specialized label though.
    I agree Blue Thunder, they are definately overpriced. I built up an XTC hardtail last year but I never had a chance to ride it. Was a great looking very light bike though. As for the homegrown, if it was still around I'm sure that it would be pretty high dollar as well by now.

    Here is the bike. The build was completed on Saturday. I have already taken the fork off and sold it on ebay. I'm going to go with an 80 mm fork instead. I am also planning on getting rid of the heavy wire beaded tires as soon as the weather gets a little better. Once all is said and done I am hoping this bike weighs in at under 21 pounds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by danka24
    Get the Rocky Mountain Vertex. Carbon Fiber Mountain Bikes are a very bad idea.
    Uh-huh... Nice over-generalisation. Many successful race wins have been done on CF MTB frames. Ask Roland Green. Although I'm not a racer, I've crashed my CF bike plenty of times and have had it inspected with no problems found. Properly designed, constructed and taken care of, CF is as durable as any other material for mountain biking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khuon
    Uh-huh... Nice over-generalisation. Many successful race wins have been done on CF MTB frames. Ask Roland Green. Although I'm not a racer, I've crashed my CF bike plenty of times and have had it inspected with no problems found. Properly designed, constructed and taken care of, CF is as durable as any other material for mountain biking.
    Many? Nope, he only got lucky in the big races, where was he in any of the other races then. On the more technical courses the fuel was used, an aluminum fuel even. Having seen 5 broken 9.8's, all at the stays. One was used as strictly xc, and it was regularly looked over. The other 4 were used for 4x, not the best on the bike, but all of them broke at the relatively same spot. Racing a CF framed bike is usually a 1 season frame. Unless you are a pro and are very smooth and easy on equipment a cf mtb will be right up your ally. Not everyone who races is a pro and not everyone is smooth and easy on the equipment, making a cf frame kind of pointless.
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    I also agree with Hunter regarding the Dragon. I just bought a 13'' 2003 Jamis Dragon frame from JensonUSA for $315. It regularly sells for $600. You might want to check and see if they have any left. It is an incredible deal!!
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    If you can get your hands on one I would say get this


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    Where did the carbon Giant's go anyway?Why did they stop making them?

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    http://www.motobecane.com/MBUSAflt.html

    very light XC mtn bike. Not sure how durable the frame is though.

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    Stumpjumper vs. XTC2? I've heard it said that Specialized are overpriced and that the XTC is an awesome bike / great value for money. But I'm in the market for a hardtail that I can do a couple of races on a year but mostly ride XC and in Montreal the base Stumpjumper is 100$ more than the XTC. For that extra $100 you get better wheels, better fork ... and the bike shop is down the street. Both seem like pretty good solid bikes to me ... I'll let you know which I get and how it works out in a couple of months!

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    get a cannondale Fseries Hardtail in Optimo tubing with a Lefty....
    Can't be beat
    An ounce off the wheels is worth 3 off the frame

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    i just got a leader bike hard tail and it is frikkin awesome!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbikedude
    If you can get your hands on one I would say get this

    i'd love that bike! how much (if i found one) do you think it would cost?
    "If you've been into freeriding for very long, then you are no stranger to the letters DBR. Diamondback was pioneering freeride and mountain biking and winning world titles in downhill before most people had evern heard about this type of riding."-Diamondback Ltd.

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    I bought a Giant MCM last sumemr. I bought in South Korea. It cost me roughly $2200.00 Cdn. I am pretty happy with it so far. I don't race though and I do not ride that aggressivley but I do a lot of offroad trail riding. The bike handles very well. I'll post some pics once I fugure out how to shrink them down.

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    To bad it's sold........

    http://www.gearfx.com/judy/

    Still nice to look at !

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