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    Similar Geometries, Different Components

    So, I've been to 4 Local bike shops in the last couple days and have test-ridden around 6 HT XC bikes in the ~$800 range. The bike I liked best was the 05 Gaint Rainier. It's light, has decent components and just feels fun. In particular I like the frame geometry (XTC) better than any of the other bikes I test rode.

    Now here's the issue: yesterday evening I take a look at the IBEX website and find that the Trophy-series frame geometry seems very close to the Rainier geometry.

    Rainier- Trophy
    Size: 19" - 20"
    Head Angle: 71- 70
    Seat Angle: 72- 73
    Top Tube: 23.2"- 22"
    Chainstay: 16.7"- 16.75"
    WheelBase: 41.7"- 42"
    Standover: 31.7"- 31"

    The specs of each bike are:

    _ 05 Giant Rainier_
    frame
    ALUXX SL butted aluminum
    fork
    Marzocchi EXR 100mm Travel
    shifters
    SRAM X.7 Trigger
    front derailleur
    Shimano Deore
    rear derailleur
    SRAM X.7 Short Cage
    brakes
    Hayes Sole XC 6" Rotor
    brake levers
    Hayes
    cassette
    SRAM PG950 11-34, 9-speedT
    chain
    Shimano HG53
    cranks
    TruVative forged 22/32/42T for Powerspline
    bb
    TruVative GigaPipe SL ISIS
    rims
    Sun Rhyno Lite 32H
    hubs
    Formula 32H Disc
    spokes
    Stainless steel 14G
    tires
    Hutchinson Bulldog AirLight 26 x 2.1"
    handlebar
    Easton EA50 31.8mm Low Rise
    stem
    Easton EA50 6 Degree Rise
    headset
    Integrated, 1 1/8"
    seatpost
    Easton EA50 30.9x350
    saddle
    WTB Speed V
    pedals
    Shimano PD-M505
    extras
    chainguard

    _04 IBEX Trophy 880LX_
    Frame:
    6061 Double-Butted Aluminum w/ Oversize Tubing /Aerol Downtube / Replaceable Derailleur Hanger / Disc Ready / S-Bend Seat-Stay & Tapered Chainstay

    Fork:
    Marzocchi MX Comp ETA w/ 85mm Travel / Air Spring - Coil Negative / ETA Lockout / Ext. Preload & Int. Rebound Adjustment / Dual SSV Damping / Monolite Magnesium Lowers / 30mm Stanchions / Superlite Forged "M" Crown w/ Cryofit Design

    Front Derailleur:
    Shimano LX

    Rear Derailleur:
    Shimano XT

    Shifters:
    Shimano LX Rapidfire - 27-spd Indexed

    Crankset:
    TruVativ Stylo SL - 44/32/22T w/ Alloy Crank Arms & Chainrings

    Bottom Bracket:
    TruVativ Giga-Pipe SL - ISIS Splined - Cartridge Type

    Cassette:
    Shimano LX - 11-32T - 9-spd

    Chain:
    KMC Z9000 Super Narrow - Dark Silver

    Brakes:
    Avid Single Digit 5 V-Brakes

    Brake Levers:
    Avid Speed Dial 5

    Cables:
    Jagwire

    Tires:
    Kenda Kharisma - 26" x 2.10"

    Rims:
    Ritchey Pro Girder XC Double Wall - 32H - Black - OCR Rear - CNC Sidewall

    Hubs:
    Shimano LX w/ Quick Release

    Spokes:
    14G Black Stainless Steel

    Handlebar:
    Ritchey Comp Rizer - 620mm x 20 rise - OS 31.8mm Clamp Size

    Stem:
    Ritchey Comp V2 Alloy - OS 31.8mm Clamp Size

    Grips:
    WTB Dual Compound Trial Grips

    Headset:
    FSA Orbit XL II Threadless w/ Sealed Cartridge Bearings

    Pedals:
    Shimano M520 Clipless w/ Cleats and Clip-in Platform

    Saddle:
    WTB Laser V Race

    Seat Post:
    Ritchey Comp V2 Alloy - 27.2 x 350mm

    Seat Clamp:
    Uno Alloy Extrusion

    Also Included:
    Multi-tool, Touch-up Paint

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    The Trophy works out to be about $100 less (shipping vs LBS tax considered). Of course I won't be able to test it until it arrives at my doorstep. It doesn't have the Hayes disc brake, but it does have what looks to be a better fork. I have no problem servicing my own bike as I am technically inclined. The LBS would provide "minor" adjustments for life on the Giant.

    Based on the specs and the close geometry, what would you guys go with?

    Thanks.. (Excuse the huge post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by murnau

    Rainier- Trophy
    Size: 19" - 20"
    Head Angle: 71- 70
    Seat Angle: 72- 73
    Top Tube: 23.2"- 22"
    Chainstay: 16.7"- 16.75"
    WheelBase: 41.7"- 42"
    Standover: 31.7"- 31"
    Those specs aren't as "close" as you think The seat angle. head angle and the shorter top tube will feel a lot different than the Raineir that you seemed to like so much. Components are swappable, frame geometry is a PITA th get around. Bottom line get the Giant as you know you like it.

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    Thanks for the response, you're right- saving $100 dollars isn't worth the risk of an incompatible frame. If I ended up not liking the IBEX I'd be out ~$60-80 on shipping both ways too.

    On another note, does anyone know if the Rainier frame is just a repainted copy of the entry level XTC frame? The geometries match 1 to 1, they're both made of ALUXX butted aluminum, is there a difference here?

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