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Old 04-19-05, 02:25 AM   #1
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Giant Reign vs Trance vs NRS. What's the point?

Okay, just looking to get back into mountainbiking again. Trying to speak to the local bike store about Specialized bikes since I like my Roubaix Comp, however for some reason they have a hardon for Giant and wont talk about anything else (even though I bought the Roubaix off them). Anyway, they give me the Maestro suspension catalogue with the Faith, Reign and Trance in it. Anyway, it's obvious what the Faith is about. I take it the Reign is Giants new All Mountain bike. I've also been told that if you're doing competitive xc then the NRS is still the go. Which leaves the Trance. What's that thing for? Wouldn't people choose the NRS to race and the Reign for those a bit more casual, with the Trance not really having a niche?

(Obviously I'm a noob with all the different categories of mtb's. So humour me if I'm missing something obvious).
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Old 04-19-05, 05:24 AM   #2
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NRS will be discontinued very very soon. Those available are probably run out stock that shops are trying to clear so that they can tell you the Trance is the Bee's Knees.

NRS is still a good buy since it's reacehd it maximum potential while the Trance is only starting it's market development cycle.
get a NRS and squeeze squeeze squeeze them on price. I reckon you could get it for just above retail cost price
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Old 04-19-05, 07:51 AM   #3
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Really? The local shop made out that the Trance was heavier than the NRS and not really up to competition. I'd basically be using it for some Adventure and xc racing, so I'm not really to concerned about getting something for rock bottom dollar. If the trance is going to be a better bike than the NRS then I'd prefer it.
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The Trance has a better suspension system. Unlike the NRS setup, it remains fairly active under braking and pedal load. But the Trance is somewhat heavy (over 28 lbs I think), so it is not ideal for racing. In my opinon the Trance is a great trail/adventure bike.

But as someone mentioned, Trance is a new offering, so look for the Trance suspension in future XC racing (lighter) configurations.
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So isn't the Reign an trail/adventure bike? Frame looks very similar to the Trance, just with longer travel. I wonder why didn't they stick with that for the adventure riders, and put some effort into something lighter for the xc riders?

Interesting that the NRS has a couple of carbon fibre models, but the bike that replaces it doesn't.
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I didn't think that the Maestro suspension was replacing the NRS suspension. Just a different design for different purposes. Wondering if any one had some insider info as to what direction Giant might be taking on this.
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For a more techincal XC course, the Trance could be a superior choice to the NRS. Depends what you're looking for, though. Some riders will always opt for a Hardtail, which IMHO is the NRS's main competition.

They're relatively new bikes, but the Maestro suspension is a close copy (I'd go so far as to call it a knock-off) of the dw-link suspension found on IH, Indy Fab & BMC full-suspension bikes. Look up some MTBR reviews of the Hollowpoint to get a feel for its ability.

I owned an NRS for about a year and found it to be about equivalent to my 29"er suspension post-equipped hardtail. Great for a smoother XC course, but than again, so is a race-weight hardtail.

The dw-link and Maestro suspensions, on the other hand, manage to achieve excellent climbing characteristics while remaining active and responsive to all terrain big and small.
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It looks like there is not a Giant NRS for 2006 (at least in the UK)

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/uk/030...30.000.000.asp

There were 2005 models but no 2006 models, yet. I don't know if this means the end of the NRS or they haven't updated there website completely for 2006. They also could be waiting to put out a 2006 1/2 model. Who knows? Anyone?
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Interesting. My shop also told me Giant was getting rid of the NRS. Might be true then. Wonder if the Trance will be hard edged enough.

BTW, interesting that the Tracne 3 in Australia has X-7 while the rest of the world seems to be sticking to LX. Wonder why Giant Aus has specced it's stuff differently?
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Okay, just looking to get back into mountainbiking again. Trying to speak to the local bike store about Specialized bikes since I like my Roubaix Comp, however for some reason they have a hardon for Giant and wont talk about anything else (even though I bought the Roubaix off them). Anyway, they give me the Maestro suspension catalogue with the Faith, Reign and Trance in it. Anyway, it's obvious what the Faith is about. I take it the Reign is Giants new All Mountain bike. I've also been told that if you're doing competitive xc then the NRS is still the go. Which leaves the Trance. What's that thing for? Wouldn't people choose the NRS to race and the Reign for those a bit more casual, with the Trance not really having a niche?

(Obviously I'm a noob with all the different categories of mtb's. So humour me if I'm missing something obvious).

My understanding is the NRS will be discontinued.

The idea with the Maestro suspension is to use the same suspension for XC, FR and downhill. This get the cost down. And you can really see it. The Trance 4 at my local shop is going for $1,050. That's an awesome price for a good suspension system.
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One thing I did note on the UK site was there was no FS XC race bike. So I wonder if Giant is putting together a Maestro XC bike to replace the NRS or if just fine tuning the NRS for a 06 1/2 NRS. Wish someone had definitive info on the NRS.
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I've got the reign 3 and it's basically an all rounder, all mountain bike
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I love newbies who dig up 5 1/2 month old threads that have been resolved and nobody cares about anymore.
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Old 10-28-05, 04:38 AM   #15
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I love newbies who dig up 5 1/2 month old threads that have been resolved and nobody cares about anymore.
I care as the thread got my attention.

Butt which is it?

As you scold them for not searching for common information then ridicule them for commenting within an existent thread.
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One thing I did note on the UK site was there was no FS XC race bike. So I wonder if Giant is putting together a Maestro XC bike to replace the NRS or if just fine tuning the NRS for a 06 1/2 NRS. Wish someone had definitive info on the NRS.
I believe the bike you are looking for is the Anthem. But check out the dw-link Azure as well.
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Old 10-28-05, 03:39 PM   #17
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I care as the thread got my attention.

Butt which is it?

As you scold them for not searching for common information then ridicule them for commenting within an existent thread.

okay but does anyone really care that he has a reign 3 and that its an all-rounder? after all, it was already said in this thread.
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As you scold them for not searching for common information then ridicule them for commenting within an existent thread.
One searches to find information to read not comment on long resolved and dead threads.
If someone had a question about what they read they would start a new thread something like this:

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I did a search and found this thread, I have a question that wasn't covered in that thread.................................etc etc etc
Basically saying that
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Yeah yeah thread Nazi. Give it a rest.

Nice to see one of my children rise from the dead. Still haven't got a new bike yet. Trance was just to soft for my intended use. Anthem will most definitley be the go but damn, I wish they'd hurry up and release it here. Seems it's out in the US in December, but not even any word as to when we'll be getting it in Australia.

Any of you dudes lucky enough to get a ride on Anthems prior to release?
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yes i got to ride one at interbike and they{anthem** ride fantastic, climb well and generally felt great. pretty light also. i was a big nrs fan and was very worried what was going to happen to giants race/dualies. not wooried anymore, will own one asap.
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