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    For those who do the DH/freeride thing...

    What is your view point of using a motox Full Faced helmet compared to a full faced helmet designed for mtb's?

    For me, I used to think that a full faced helmet would be more than enough. A couple of things have made me use DOT approved fullfaced helmets(MotoX) now rather than using one designed for mtb's.

    First event: The crash that Johnny Waddel had, he had just switched to a motox helmet a week before his crash, if he still had the One designed for mtb's he probably would be dead right now.

    Second event: My wipeout from december, broke a full faced helmet made for mtb's in three spots and suffered a bad concussion during the time. Just picked up a new helmet today, a 661 Launch, a DOT approved full faced helmet. So my question is to you, do motox helmets have a place in the DH/freeride world?
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    are they show to actually provide better protection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
    are they show to actually provide better protection?
    Snell has reccomended to use a DOT certified helmet if you were to race DH or to freeride.
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    then yes they have a place. My only concern ist hat they could be a hinderance sp?
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    I use a 661 full carbon i have used a moto x helmet but they seem a bit heavy to me

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    I personally dont feel sae in any mtb helmet besides the Troy Lee Designs D2. Its reminiscent of a solid mx helmet. I know theres a few really weak mtb helmet thats i wouldent think twice about using up in whistler. My D2 has saved from quite a few scars. If they didint have this one..I would use a motov helmet definitley because all the other bike helmets just dont offer enough pretection in my book.

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    I'm noticing the weight right now, but will eventually get used to it. As said though there are some full faced helmets that shouldn't even be in the market right now.
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    Yeah, it's hotter & heavier, but I don't mind with the extra protection my MX helmet provides. It's nice to have a removable liner regarding the heat issue.

    If you're not crashing once in a while you've got to be a total weenie. Got to protect the mellon.

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    Interesting. I never really thought about it. I know my fullface provided some extra protection over what I normally wear.

    I am thinking of switching at some point, but for now, I am really not going big or fast enough to worry 'too much'.

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    This kind of bothers me. I wear a skate helmet not a mtb helmet. I was looking at the skate-style mtb helmets, the 661 mullet. Which do you think offers better protection. I find the skate helmet is HUGE on my head; fits well, just sticks out all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTheHill
    This kind of bothers me. I wear a skate helmet not a mtb helmet. I was looking at the skate-style mtb helmets, the 661 mullet. Which do you think offers better protection. I find the skate helmet is HUGE on my head; fits well, just sticks out all over the place.
    Which is less likely to snag something and snap your neck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    Which is less likely to snag something and snap your neck?
    that's a good question...the one with the twig stuck in it maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
    that's a good question...the one with the twig stuck in it maybe?
    Skate helmets tend not to taper back to the head leaving a nice wide "shelf" for stuff to snag on

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    Agreed, this is what I have noticed. I also find that the skate helmet is terribly thick, is the mtb skate-style the same or is it notible thinner?
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    The one's I've seen offer more of a taper.

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    Perfect.
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    You may find it interesting but Santa Cruz has in their contact to riders that all DH/Fr sponsored riders must wear a DOT approved helmet. It has also been said the Waddel WAS saved because of that fact. My helmet has an Australian approval saying that it is MX worthy. I would never use my helmet for full on MX however, it is rated over a normal MTB helmet.

    I think that an MX helmet is perfectly fine in the MTB world, I think you can never have too high a standard of protection for your head. Pay as much for your helmet as you are willing to pay for your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper
    . Pay as much for your helmet as you are willing to pay for your head.
    exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper
    Pay as much for your helmet as you are willing to pay for your head.
    If I can find a better helmet on sale I'm going to be happy with the bargain.

    Funny thing is I'm actually going to start trying on helmets again soon as my oldest one has reached retirement / smashing age.

    (No suggestions wanted / needed at this time. Thanks)

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    Ooh pick me... get a pink one with love hearts on it, they always work well and look god damn sexy. Yeah I agree I will buy one on sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper
    Ooh pick me... get a pink one with love hearts on it, they always work well and look god damn sexy. Yeah I agree I will buy one on sale.
    Why would I do that when my kid sister has a black one with blue and purple stars on it?

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    Good question Kona. I suppose as long as you don't race DH/FR and/or don't go too extreme (aka. beginners) then a MTB Full-Face should be enough. I suppose the MotoX ones weigh quite a bit more right?
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    How do the TLD D2's rate in comparison with MTB helmets and DOT Aproved stuff?

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    Just for reference my ~'01 KBC Snell M95 & DOT approved rig weighs 3.25lbs.

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