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Old 05-13-05, 05:35 AM   #1
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Lots of talk about Ebay bikes...what's the deal?

I've been reading alot of threads lately and see that alot of people suggest getting a used bike on ebay or craig's list or whatever. this is better than an x-mart bike. i've been looking on ebay for a used hardrock, giant, or trek and can't find a decent deal at all. i don't know what you all are talking about. i see 1998 hardrocks for $250 i can get a brand new one for $300. if anything there about $50 less than a brand new bike from a lbs and thats not including shipping. i can't afford $300, i only make min. wage and i help support my family--my dad died and i don't want my mom to work 3 jobs to raise us kids, but i really don't want to buy some crappy mongoose either. are there online retailers that sell used bikes or older model new ones for about $200 or maybe a little more? or could someone point me in the direction of a good deal on ebay maybe? I'll buy anything that is decent and not completely scratched up and wrecked. I need a 16" or 17" frame.
i don't mean to be a pain but it is frustrating and i really don't have the money although when i am not in school or working i would like to try riding more, especially this summer.
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Old 05-13-05, 05:42 AM   #2
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Yea, it's all the people who are watching for E-Bay bargains that drive up prices. Most people have an idea of what something is worth, so they bid until the price exceeds their idea of its value. Nothing you'll ever do about that. It's just what it is.

I guess the best place for you to look would be garage sales & newspaper want ads. Those places will be alot cheaper, but you'll be hard pressed to find the bike you want there. Just keep looking, your bike is out there.
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I noticed the same thing when looking on Ebay. Why would anyone pay $10 or $20 less than a new bike, for something older and used? and then think their getting a deal? Ebay'ers try to stick it to you too with outrageous reserve prices and these high "handling" fees. I guess idiots don't know that bikes, like cars, depreciate over time, and not by $10 either.
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I noticed the same thing when looking on Ebay. Why would anyone pay $10 or $20 less than a new bike, for something older and used? and then think their getting a deal? Ebay'ers try to stick it to you too with outrageous reserve prices and these high "handling" fees. I guess idiots don't know that bikes, like cars, depreciate over time, and not by $10 either.
Sean: Have you checket out www.pinkbike.com 's Buy & Sell section? It'd be a place to start. No bidding, just email the person and arrange a deal.
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I just checked pinkbike(thanks for the heads up btw), but still don't see anything. most of the bikes on there seem to be in the $700-$1000 range. only stuff cheap was about $300 for used hardrocks etc. I don't mind spending $200 on a used hardrock, but why spend $300 on a used one when a new one only cost a little more? Also, and not your fault, i must be geographically challenged b/c i don't live on the west coast or anywhere near the pacific northwest or canada either.
i'll keep looking, but i doubt i'll find what i want. the local ads around here are usually for people cleaning their garages and the bike are 15-20 years old and were'nt good bikes back then either re: huffy, murray etc. I guess i'll have to get some wal-mart bike or something...it's all i can afford. don't bother emailing me and telling me to save more $, b/c I can't save more $. Most of the $ i make goes to help my mom, me, and my little sisters. Not a lot left over for "luxurys" like a mtn bike.
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I guess idiots don't know that bikes, like cars, depreciate over time, and not by $10 either.
I think it has more to do with being uninformed consumers. You have to pretty knowledgable, or have done your homework pricing parts and bikes, to know the price differences between a hardrock disc pro 2002 and a hardrock comp from 2003 (just examples) and that this disc brake is 25 less than that one and that this fork is $100 more than that one. That is one of the many reasons why it is not the best choice for a newbie to jump on ebay. Personally, even if the bike is 1-2 years used, %50 of retail is the max I would even consider, especially when you start talking about suspension
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I guess i'll have to get some wal-mart bike or something...it's all i can afford.
Do you have local bike shops in your area? Actual Bike shops, not toy stores.

If you do, go to as many as you can and see about used bikes. Tell them your story and see what they can do for you.
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I randomly check ebay from time to time to find a deal, but I think most people are overpaying for used bikes there. A piece of advice for you for your forum future. It always is helpful to have as part of your profile where you are located. Often people are from the same area and can give great advice like, "Hey were in the same city Check out this specific shop 30 minutes from you they can help you out." I'd also peruse craigslist if I were you.
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What are you guys talking about? Ebay has great deals. For instance, a BRAND NEW Giant NRS3 2005 is selling on there for 550 on Buy it Now and the SSP is 699. Ive also seen a 2004 Specialized Enduro S-works frame (also brand new) going for $1,200 and i looked and found it for 1,999 (thats pounds sterling for anyone who didnt notice). Maybe youre looking for things and just not researching properly.
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many buyers of low end ebay bikes are the same people who buy wal mart bikes- they dont have any clue what the bikes are (really) worth, or what they sold for new. they recognise a popular brand name- specialized, trek, etc, and shimano components, and they think it must be expensive.
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I just checked pinkbike(thanks for the heads up btw), but still don't see anything. most of the bikes on there seem to be in the $700-$1000 range. only stuff cheap was about $300 for used hardrocks etc. I don't mind spending $200 on a used hardrock, but why spend $300 on a used one when a new one only cost a little more? Also, and not your fault, i must be geographically challenged b/c i don't live on the west coast or anywhere near the pacific northwest or canada either.
i'll keep looking, but i doubt i'll find what i want. the local ads around here are usually for people cleaning their garages and the bike are 15-20 years old and were'nt good bikes back then either re: huffy, murray etc. I guess i'll have to get some wal-mart bike or something...it's all i can afford. don't bother emailing me and telling me to save more $, b/c I can't save more $. Most of the $ i make goes to help my mom, me, and my little sisters. Not a lot left over for "luxurys" like a mtn bike.
You're welcome. Sometimes then don't have what you need, you gotta be patient. As for geographically challenged, I live on the other side of the Atlantic.
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I bought my '99 K2 Flyin' Monkey (msrp $1499) for $550 off eBAY back in 2000, from a guy in Arkansas. It looked almost brand new. I suppose I got ripped off, huh?

Here's a link on the bike.
http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Bike_ful...ct_19130.shtml

Like someone said earlier, you have to have enough sense to know what is or isn't a good deal. If you think paying MSRP prices or maybe $50 less @ your LBS is a good deal, then go for it....
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I bought my '99 K2 Flyin' Monkey (msrp $1499) for $550 off eBAY back in 2000, from a guy in Arkansas. It looked almost brand new. I suppose I got ripped off, huh?

Here's a link on the bike.
http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Bike_ful...ct_19130.shtml

Like someone said earlier, you have to have enough sense to know what is or isn't a good deal. If you think paying MSRP prices or maybe $50 less @ your LBS is a good deal, then go for it....
You can't compare ebay five years ago to ebay today, I doubt you'd find that deal nowadays. The point myself and other posters were making is that once one person decides they want to get ripped off then there is no longer a deal to be found. It only takes one silly person bidding to overule all the knowledgable people who know the value of a bike.
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I guess that's why I was one of the original "Sniper's" on eBAY....
Item's can still be had @ a good price, if you know how to do it....
Don't bother asking though. It'll be public knowledge in a couple more years.
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Ebay in 2000 is nothing like Ebay in 2005! I was buying and selling on Ebay back then and I have to tell you there is a BIG difference nowadays. Everybody and their mother knows what Ebay is now and they aren't afraid to shop on the net anymore. A recent example of the morons on Ebay: I was looking to get a coffe pot for my mom for Mother's Day. I decided to try Ebay. The standard Mr. Coffee 12 cup maker could be found on Ebay for about $29.95. I decided to try Wal Mart.Com and guess what, the same coffee maker was the same exact price and I wouldn't have to pay shipping at Wal Mart. So what morons think their getting a deal there? That is just one example, I see people over paying on used items ALL the time. I've been scoping some bikes on Ebay and although you may be able to find a good deal every once in a while, most of them are selling for WAY too much IMO for a 5, 6, 10 year old USED bikes.
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There are deals to be found - you just need to be patient. It takes A LOT of research - meaning you need to look everyday. I purchased a 2003 Jamis Dakar with upgrades for $700 about one month ago on ebay. The bike is basically flawless. You're simply not going to find a quality used bike like the one I got for that price at any LBS. Sure, bikes depreciate over time BUT I am positive that if I was to resell my bike in 6 months I would probably get what I paid for it or very close to it. If I bought a brand new bike, rode it for 6 months and decided to sell it I would lose more money comparatively speaking because now the bike is not new and nobody is going to pay full price for it.

With my bike, the seller had the Buy It Now feature. After I did about 10-15 hours of research on the bike after I found the listing, I didn't play with the bidding - I just bought the thing. Many times the Buy It Now price is fair but people get caught up in the bidding and the merchandise goes for more than what it is worth. Someone else mentioned sniping. Basically, you wait until the last 10 or so seconds to place your bid. Sometimes that will work. There are even sniping services that you can pay for...

I have bought many items on ebay from books (one on southern california mtb trails - paid $3), motocross stuff (pair of Fox 360 pants - $40), musical instruments (epiphone casino $400, 1960's Ludwig Supraphonic snare $100) and countless other things. The point I am making is that the deals are there - you just need to do your homework and don't get carried away with bidding.

Another option is any local resale papers/magazines that you can find. Here in SoCal there is the Recycler (www.recycler.com). My husband just bought a Gary Fisher 2004 Cake DLX 3 for $900 off of someone that had an ad in that paper. That's about 1/2 off the retail price.

Don't despair...you'll find something...it just may not be a quick as you want!
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I like Loser's who give up easily.... That keeps me going thru Life....
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You have to be willing to get on there and stay on there. For two months, I tried to buy numerous Stumpjumpers, Fuels, Giants, Gary Fishers...and each time I got outbid. I even got knocked out once by $100 in the last 10 seconds. Two guys run the auction up to $380 (I thought I had it for $275) before I could refresh the screen.

Luckily, I stumbled on a new 02' Jamis Dakar frameset one day. $200 shipping and all. I researched it and a day later I bought it BUY-IT-NOW. Since it was an 02', they still had the Horst link.

What my point is...do the research. For $200, it may not be a Specialized or a Trek or another popular name, but you might find a killer ride if you will hunt down different brands. I've seen some Giants, Fishers, etc. go for LESS in your size, just cause they aren't as popular...
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