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Old 05-14-05, 10:43 PM   #1
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I was looking at a bunch of different bikes last night (on the internet) and the Kona Hoss really caught my eye. I think it might be a good bike since I'm a hefty 215lbs.

Anyone here ride one? Is it really heavy?

I've been riding my new Hardrock for almost a week now and I'm like a convert to MTBs (or a born-again)... too bad there aren't any trails around where I am.

I might sell one of my road bikes and get the Kona.
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if you already have a hardrock, why do you want another fairly similar hardtail?
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Arn't there any specs on some site?
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215 isn't too heavy for the hardrock. Maybe you can ride that a little longer, try different things, find out what kind of bike you do want.

You might decide to get a long-travel dual suspension for freeriding, or a singlespeed rigid bike, or whatever...
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Yeah, I guess I don't need any more bikes, but it's always nice to add to your collection
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I've just bought a Kona Hoss, and I think it's fantastic.

I can't find it now, but I'm sure that, before I bought it, I read on some site that it weighs ~15kg. If that seems ridiculous, bear in mind that I don't have a clue what I'm on about.

Anyhoots, I'm not overweight, I just wanted a bike that looked chunky and would stand up to a lot of abuse. Plus, the fact that it was larger than average was a good thing in my case, because I got it to get myself fit. I use it for a 45 minute commute, each way. Half through traffic, half through parks. By traffic, I mean serious traffic, as in hellish central London traffic, where manouverability is important. I haven't been mashed yet, which is a clue that it can be thrown around.

Hopefully, this summer, I'll be doing some trail riding. I just need to get my aging body up to spec, first.

Worst thing about my Hoss, is that the 2.3 tyres are too wide for the racks at work. Also, if nice and shiney is important to you, the paint scratches very easily. Personally, I like the rat look.

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Hi, Congrats on the new bike and joining the forums! 15kg is around 30lbs. I think. I'm not sure how much my Hardrock weighs, but it's much more than my road bikes. I just like how the Kona Hoss is built for us fat guys.




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I've just bought a Kona Hoss, and I think it's fantastic.

I can't find it now, but I'm sure that, before I bought it, I read on some site that it weighs ~15kg. If that seems ridiculous, bear in mind that I don't have a clue what I'm on about.

Anyhoots, I'm not overweight, I just wanted a bike that looked chunky and would stand up to a lot of abuse. Plus, the fact that it was larger than average was a good thing in my case, because I got it to get myself fit. I use it for a 45 minute commute, each way. Half through traffic, half through parks. By traffic, I mean serious traffic, as in hellish central London traffic, where manouverability is important. I haven't been mashed yet, which is a clue that it can be thrown around.

Hopefully, this summer, I'll be doing some trail riding. I just need to get my aging body up to spec, first.

Worst thing about my Hoss, is that the 2.3 tyres are too wide for the racks at work. Also, if nice and shiney is important to you, the paint scratches very easily. Personally, I like the rat look.

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http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/?6...2Jfev4Jy5Lfw==

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30.4lbs

Not really that heavy for a beefy hardtail, Kona's XC full suspension rig weighs in a wee bit more at 30.9lbs.
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All of Kona's bike weights are found in the "Tech Downloads" section of the site:
http://www.konaworld.com/tech/techni..._downloads.htm

Here is the document you're looking for:
http://www.konaworld.com/tech/techni...ke_weights.xls

It doesn't state it, but I'm assuming the weights are for mid-sized frames.
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i don't even think that the hoss is much(any ) stronger than the Hard Rock pro .except for the fork ,which isn't all that fly on the hoss ether .and you pay 100 $ for lower end components.
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Just for a note. Hoss is stronger and better built than the hardrock, period. The difference may not be noticeable to most but I broke a hardrock going much smaller than my kona roast (in 2002 the roast is the same frame as the 03 - 05 hoss)

The hoss should weight in the 32 to 36 pound range (mostly depending on wheels and forks, mine is 35).

If you are a big rider or plan on going big, the hoss will suit you perfectly. At this point there arent many companies offering that type of freeride bikes to adults anymore. Norco and Banshee still do but thats really it off the top of my head.
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Just for a note. Hoss is stronger and better built than the hardrock, period. The difference may not be noticeable to most but I broke a hardrock going much smaller than my kona roast (in 2002 the roast is the same frame as the 03 - 05 hoss)
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Don't worry about it. I was just testing the bike to see if it could hold up. I am an abuse rider AND weigh a tonne. Hardrock is good for 90% of the riders out there. The roast just offered stronger everything in my mind

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i was just wondering because usually you give the HR two thumbs up as being a "low end freeride bike".
i hope it will take at least a year of beating from me.than i would be satisfied.then before i move to the andes i might just buy an FS .

btw. g-unit we were just talking about the haro escape ,trhat might be a go alternative for the hoss.
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Mine's held up for almost 9 months, and I expect it'll last longer than that. The fork is getting crappier by the minute...
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So would it be a better option to get the Hoss Deluxe (I'm guessing so since I keep hearing how the fork sucks).

I just checked out the Haro website... I think the Haro Escape is more than what I'm looking for.

Basically I was interested in the Hoss because it seems to be a heavy-duty XC bike for guys like me who have a 38" waist
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Do you want to go fast, or go big? Why don't you try to break your hardrock by riding and go from there, lol

If you can break it, get a tougher bike. If you break yourself instead, get a lighter/faster bike.
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get on the freaken HR and trim that waist to a healthy 34 !!!
way cheaper and you'll be in good shape.sitting on the computer and writing threads won't get you there ,so put your shoes on and hit the trails ,roads or whatever ,
i would not be in anyway concerned about your weight ,the HR and and xc use .it will be just fine.
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I just called up a bunch of different bike shops and found a shop in Brooklyn that has an '04 Hoss (16" size) for $550.00

I'm gonna check it out tomorrow morning

I'm not fat, I'm big boned!
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I'm not fat, I'm big boned!
dude you can be as big boned as you want ,that doesn't give you a 38 waist line !!!
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Ha...mine is a 20" and weighs in at 34lb. Now it's probably close to 38 with the new wheel, pump lock, light, etc. It's still a nice bike for sure. I love my HOss Deelux
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I was joking.


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dude you can be as big boned as you want ,that doesn't give you a 38 waist line !!!
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