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Old 05-19-05, 01:52 PM   #1
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Frogs vs. Eggbeaters

I have not gone clipless yet on my mountain bike . I've riden with spd's on my road bike for years. Does anyone have experience with both Speedplay Frogs and Crankbrothers Eggbeaters? Also any suggestions on the right shoes for your pick considering that I adventure race and do a good bit of hike-a-bike.

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I've riden both on my mountain bike. Stay away from the frogs they don't clear mud well and if you get a pebble on the wrong place of your pedal of cleat, your not going to get clipped in unless you manually clean it off.. I'd highly recomend the eggbeaters. In terms of shoes, I have the specialized comp mountain. However I think specialized shoes can be hit or miss depending on the rider. Both cleats fit well in the shoe and didn't extend below the tread at all.
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Interesting. I couldn't disagree more with ckleps. I haven't ridden Eggbeaters, but I've been riding Frogs on both my bikes (mtb and road) since 98 and love them. The worst case with mud - and believe me, TX has some really crappy, thick, sticky mud - takes 2 stomps sometimes. Pebbles - huh? I've never had an issue with pebbles, but I suppose if you get a pebble jammed in the cleat you wouldn't be able to get clipped in, but seems to me that would apply to any cleat.

Frogs do take some getting used to since there is no spring force keeping you in or centered on the pedal. That's what gives so much freedom of movement, too. Once you get used to the feel, I think you'll really like them.

As for shoes, really, the only way you can figure that out is trying some on. I've had Nike (way too narrow), Diadora, Lake and now Specialized Mtn Comps. I really like these shoes. Nice wide toe box for my big paddle feet, made with their body geometry science which I guess works.

Like I said, I've never tried the eggbeaters (or Times; similar mechanisms) but I have some friends who do have them and them and they're sometimes stomping twice, too, though admittedly not quite as often as Frogs.

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Im using the egg beater design (Candy SL, but its the same thing just with a small platform). I am very happy with them, there is no effort in clipping out it seems. As for shoes i am very happy with my Specialized Sonomas
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I've been using Egg Beaters (standard and Candies) for about three years now and they've never given me a single problem. I've hear other people complain about problems with the Frogs shedding mud and I'm not really big on the shoe-clip (it's too friggin big) so I'm not sure I'd go with the little green monsters. I believe they're also more expensive.
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go eggbeaters
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I do not think a frog would stand a chance aginst an eggbeater.

I prefer Time ATAC Z pedals.

Hey, you could add time to the frogs, use the eggbeters and have a meal.

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Which do you think is better to stop hot spots?
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I do not think a frog would stand a chance aginst an eggbeater.

I prefer Time ATAC Z pedals.

Hey, you could add time to the frogs, use the eggbeters and have a meal.


my god that one is really making my stomach hurt in that bad pun way.
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Which do you think is better to stop hot spots?
the best protection frm hot spots is a stiff shoe. THe candy SL's have not given me any hotspots though
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Thanks for the info y'all. I get hot spots bad on road bike using spd's and some specialized shoes. That's one reason I've been hesitant to get some for the mtn bike. I have a hardtail and spend a lot of time standing.
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I adore my Eggbeater SS's.

I have Speedplay lollipops on my road bike and can't say enough good things about them. I don't know if the Frogs perform similarly but if they do I'd say you can't go wrong with either.

I have yet to hear or experience a single negative thing about the Eggbeaters so you could be reasonably assured you'll like them.
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Well, I just put my new Mallet C's on the bike and rode it up and down the street a little last night. Clipped in easy and out easy. I like the platform and the cleats don't scratch on the concrete anymore the way they did with my spd's. I'll let you know what I think once I get a chance to do some trail riding.

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I have yet to hear or experience a single negative thing about the Eggbeaters

To preface this, I have eggbeaters on all my mountain bikes. I love them.

In my opinion, the only weakness to the design of the eggbeater is that if you strike a rock(or other equally hard substance)with the underside of the pedal, because of the four sided design, the pedal releases. In my three years of having them this has happened to me twice. Like I said, I still love them and it is a tiny problem, and of course you should not be hitting rocks with your pedals, but it does happen on occasion. The ATACs do not have this problem from what I hear.
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