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Old 05-31-05, 01:01 PM   #1
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hardtails and full suspension

i am going to be doing a bunch of freeriding on this bike on all sorts of terrain. would it be a very good idea to get a full suspension bike or a hardtail is just as fine?

i am not going to be going off HUGE drops

what are the pros and cons of the two kinds of bikes? besides one is softer casue it has full suspension

i am between a low end fsr and a high end rockhopper
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Well the truth is neither one of them is going to hold up well to freeriding. They are both xc bikes. If you are wanting something geared more to freeriding check out the P series or some of the Haro's such as the Escape 8.2 or 8.3. Also check out the Haro Extreme X1 or X2. Haro makes great bikes, especially for the price.
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i am not going to be going off HUGE drops
What exactly do you think freeriding is?
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What exactly do you think freeriding is?
does freeriding necessarily mean huge drops?
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does freeriding necessarily mean huge drops?
Only if you are doing it properly.

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thanks for the heads up on the fsr and rockhopper. mybe i am not doing freeriding i just took its meaning for the what the word is 'free' i am going to just be riding around on whatever i would like to be doing a bit of downhill. is a cross country bike more or less used on flat and easy going trails.

easy, i am a newb

i looked at the p.2 and i am waiting to get on it at a bike shop as i am a little skeptical of the seat and how low the frame is swept in the back
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Old 05-31-05, 04:37 PM   #7
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does freeriding necessarily mean huge drops?
Generally? Yes.
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Old 05-31-05, 04:46 PM   #8
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i would like to be doing a bit of downhill.
http://www.vorb.org.nz/modules.php?n...nload&id=21311

Watch that video clip. Thats considered downhill and generally needs a downhill bike. If youre not going to ride like them or ride hardcore on stunts, drops, etc.. then it sounds like you will be doing more XC than anything.

XC is nothing to be ashamed of, thats actually what most of my riding is.
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couldnt get to the vid. that you put on there. i am not going to be doing any hardcore riding yet. i am probobly going to be doing alot of xc. i have seen picks of dowhill riding and i am not going to do it to that extent.

soo should i go with a full suspension or hardtail???
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Well the truth is neither one of them is going to hold up well to freeriding. They are both xc bikes. If you are wanting something geared more to freeriding check out the P series or some of the Haro's such as the Escape 8.2 or 8.3. Also check out the Haro Extreme X1 or X2. Haro makes great bikes, especially for the price.

I HAVE THAT BIKE!!! haro escape 8, NOONE BUY IT, NO NO NO, PLEASE DOTN BUY IT!! it comes with an extreamly cheep and ****ty fork, i snaped when i landed a half foot jump over a foot gap wrong!!! manitoe wont warentee worth beans and the overall bike isnt that good. its not bad for a STARTER bike, for freeriding, id get the x2 if you get a harro but id just got a nice old full suspension sana cruz or sinister. mabe a specialized big hit comp?
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yea that bike looked kinda cheap i think i am sticking with a specialized i like their bikes a lots. and i hear they are well made a reliabele.

should i get full suspension or hardtail? someone please help me with this subject.
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Start off with a hardtail. Itll help you hone is alot of your necessary riding skill. Alot of people overlook the simple stuff like steering, balance, pedaling, etc..
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no, getr a full suspension, its beter for your mind, a hartail limits you, it ****ed up my head alot now its hard for me to do basic things......
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I would say go with either the P2 or possibly the bigfoot. If u cant afford those the rival is ok but if you can then check out the norco 125
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Old 05-31-05, 07:02 PM   #15
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no, getr a full suspension, its beter for your mind, a hartail limits you, it ****ed up my head alot now its hard for me to do basic things......
Pathetic.
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no, getr a full suspension, its beter for your mind, a hartail limits you, it ****ed up my head alot now its hard for me to do basic things......
?????? Thats not a bike problem.
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its a problem that involes biking dummy, when i say basic things i dotn mean walking or signing my name, i mean now that iv riden on a cheep hardtail with a ****ty fork i cant do an big gaps or drops on any bike. its all in my head dude. im a dumabss.
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its a problem that involes biking dummy, when i say basic things i dotn mean walking or signing my name, i mean now that iv riden on a cheep hardtail with a ****ty fork i cant do an big gaps or drops on any bike. its all in my head dude. im a dumabss.
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If you have a crappy fork on a hardtail, learn to use your back brake and land on your back end on drops, then let down your front end.
Not saying I am really good or anything the biggest I have done is 5 feet to flat, but the teqnique is the same.
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its a problem that involes biking dummy, when i say basic things i dotn mean walking or signing my name, i mean now that iv riden on a cheep hardtail with a ****ty fork i cant do an big gaps or drops on any bike. its all in my head dude. im a dumabss.
I wasnt talking about walking or signing your name. Who's the dummy now? You belong in the same forum as Industrial .
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its a problem that involes biking dummy, when i say basic things i dotn mean walking or signing my name, i mean now that iv riden on a cheep hardtail with a ****ty fork i cant do an big gaps or drops on any bike. its all in my head dude. im a dumabss.

thats a big pile of BS i rode a POS walmart bike for 4 years and it helped me develop alot of key skills. ya it sucked but it didnt slow me down at all. im doin big gaps and drops now. it has nothing to do with the bike you just suck

get a hardtail to begin, less to worry about. you can focus more on your riding. once you decide you need more bike then save up and get a good FS
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thanks for the the replies

i like the rockhopper comp disc, anyone got exp. with this bike?
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not the disc model but I got my wife one. I wish the frame were a little larger so I could ride it! It's a great product.
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um, disc breaks

a preference or a must have on a mountain bike?

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