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Old 06-10-05, 12:36 PM   #1
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How do you do a manual?

Can someone explain to me how to manual? I try to jerk up on my handlebars, but maybe I'm just not strong enough to pull the front wheel off the ground.

Help a sistah out, I have no idea what I'm doing.

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Old 06-10-05, 01:30 PM   #2
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you have to lean back as you're coming up...I can get my front wheel off the ground without much effort from my arms, but more my bodyweight.
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Old 06-10-05, 01:48 PM   #3
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Can someone explain to me how to manual? I try to jerk up on my handlebars, but maybe I'm just not strong enough to pull the front wheel off the ground.

Help a sistah out, I have no idea what I'm doing.

Thanks!


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Just what I asked myself two weeks ago. After not too intense practising, I've realised how to do one (personal experience):
Roll at a medium speed. Compress fork and pull back on the bars while putting all your weight back. Hopefully, this should bring you high enough. From then on I have no idea on how to continue.

One big accomplishment today is that for the first time ever I actually managed to pull up into a manual so far that I had to hop off the back onto my feet, 'cause of pulling up so hard.
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Old 06-10-05, 01:49 PM   #4
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Lean way, way, back. Seriously. Back further then you would ever want to do is probably where you need to be. My wife was having the same problem... but a lower centre of gravity should in theory offset the upper-body strength issue if the weight-shift is far enough.

Eventually you'll need to learn to feather the back brake if you start to tip over backwards. It might be easier to learn to do a convetional wheelie first to help find the balance point. You can probably search for more details on this in older posts

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Old 06-10-05, 02:20 PM   #5
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Lean way, way, back. Seriously. Back further then you would ever want to do is probably where you need to be. My wife was having the same problem... but a lower centre of gravity should in theory offset the upper-body strength issue if the weight-shift is far enough.

Eventually you'll need to learn to feather the back brake if you start to tip over backwards. It might be easier to learn to do a convetional wheelie first to help find the balance point. You can probably search for more details on this in older posts
Cool. My new bike (Santa Cruz Blur) has a much lower center of gravity than my old one.

Thanks everyone for all your help... I guess my weight is just nowhere near back enough.
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Old 06-10-05, 02:21 PM   #6
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...From then on I have no idea on how to continue.
Nice. Haha!
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Old 06-10-05, 02:52 PM   #7
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O.K. I am stupid, but...what exactly is the difference between a Manual and a Conventional wheelie?
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Old 06-10-05, 04:07 PM   #8
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Manual = No pedaling + Standing Up

Wheelie = Sitting Down, Peddaling.

Catwalk = Standing Up, Peddaling.
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Old 06-10-05, 04:18 PM   #9
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Well first you need a product then you need to (in writing) describe the product, it's component pieces and how to operate it. Oh wait wrong manual
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Raiyn, I think you're only allowed to be the Grammar Po-Leece in this thread, because I doubt you dont know how to do bicycle manuals

One thing you should know, is that using your fork to help bring the front up is a bad way to start. You can become too dependant on it and not learn how to do things properly. Try to learn how to wheelie first, and then try manuals. I can wheelie for pretty much as long as I want, but my callouses start to hurt really bad, and I have to set the front down. Im trying to learn manuals myself, but I tend to drift off to one side and have to set the wheel down so I dont fall...
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Old 06-10-05, 08:59 PM   #11
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Yes, try not to really on your fork too much, and always keep a finger on both levers! Helps you keep soooo much control I watch people fall alot and know if it was me I would have been fine because you can controll yourself alot with brakes. If you are about to flip, squeeze your back brake.
Now for maintaining the manual, this is difficult to explain, but you can kinda "pump" with your legs kinda bending them then realeasing that energy then doing it again ect. Just practice and dont give up.
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Old 06-10-05, 09:19 PM   #12
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Lean back a lot and lift the front up, but don't just jerk it up or your balance will be very hard to find. You need to get to a point where you feel as though you are about to fall off the back, this is your balance point. This will sound weird but keep balance by thrusting your hips forward and back, the more exagerated the air hump the better the manual will keep. Also when first learning you will need to feather your brakes if you are going too far back, this will bring the front down a bit.

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Old 06-10-05, 09:22 PM   #13
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Wow, hopper you said exactly what I wanted to say 10 times better then me!
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Hmm... am I the only one that shoves my right pedal down while coming up?
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Lean back a lot and lift the front up, but don't just jerk it up or your balance will be very hard to find. You need to get to a point where you feel as though you are about to fall off the back, this is your balance point.
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Good tips. When I managed to pull up so far that I had to hop off the back (no, not kangaroo but as in bail ) it was when I didn't just compress the fork and pull like a maniac trying to bring the front up but rather I put my butt behid the seat and I sort of felt like a lever, somehow, the front came up nice and slowly.
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This is probably a really obvious question, but i guess you have to do it going down atleast a slight incline?
Also, is it easier to manuel on a hardtail? (i have FS) How easy is it to manuel a BMX?
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BMX's are easier to get up, but MTB's are easier to keep up. I can't imagine what manualing an FS would be like.
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This is probably a really obvious question, but i guess you have to do it going down atleast a slight incline?
Also, is it easier to manuel on a hardtail? (i have FS) How easy is it to manuel a BMX?
I personally find it easier to find my balance on a slight incline. But once you find your balance on a down slope it is way easier to hold it. I ride a dually and will not say if it's easier or harder on a HT. As I am used to my bike I canb find the balance point easier on my bike, but when I ride other peoples HTs I think it can be better due to the lighter front end (I have a DH bike therefore heavier forks)
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Go ask the little guys at your local BMX spot. They seem to do it with ease. Short chainstays seem to help though.
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i still haven't been able to manual or even wheelie for any significant amount of time. but from the tips i've been given are:

1. keep your arms straight.
2. keep your knees bent.
3. pull back on the bars and lean back, keeping arms straight and stay low.
4. some people have said it's good to keep one finger on the rear brake so you can tap it if you feel like you're going to loop back. others have told me it's better to learn without the brake - you can get a lot further without it cause you don't lose as much speed. so far this is how i've been learning (without he brake). if i feel i'm going to loop back i just jump off the bike if i can.
5 (and probably the most important). lots and lots of practice.

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most BMX'rs dnt use breaks, i myself dont
i still havent got it perfect but i understand the art of doing them properrly by keeping my balance without brakes.
my way of doing of it and most professioansl on a BMX is known as the pump. basically as u pull ure handlebars of and lean ur body wieght backwords to lift ur front wheel up, u keep ur legs str8 as u lift up, as u feel ur handlebars reach the limit of lift i.e when u over do the lift and the bike fly up in the air u compress ur knees to keep the wheel in its exact position

to describe in more detail i will explain it below:

1) go at a steady speed (if u go to slow u wont keep the front up for to long, if u go to fast u will proberrly fly of the bike and die figurally speaking)
2) when ur rolling at the speed u feel comfortable with compress your knees so u can prepare for the lift, after uve compressed lift ur handlebars and lean over ur seat and keep ur legs fairly bent but straight aswell.
3) now the tricky bit...if u do the lift spot on u will be able to feel the front of ur wheel slowly rising more and more till it reaches the limit and u feel that u will fall of the back, as u feel this, bend ur knees in the gently to push the front wheel of the bike a bit lower down and then extend them again to pull the wheel back up. this is the pump

its ovbsious u will fall from reaching the limit of ur lift and maybe fall flat on ur ass but it means ur understanding on were abouts u need to compress ur knees to balance out the lift

this works with brakes to....same way of doing it but good for controlling balance...but ruins style i think, the pump looks so much better in my opinion
hope this ahs been helpful
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Vibe07, seeing as how it's been 2 years since the last post, he's either learned or given up by now. Your post would have been more helpful if it was written in English. How old are you?
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Old 07-08-07, 08:34 AM   #23
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It was helpful to me Brian.
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I can manual on a unicycle
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As if trainwrecked.....that takes mad skills.
I once manualled a scooter. It was intense.
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