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Old 06-13-05, 09:52 AM   #1
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I checked out the local bike shop

...and I found 3 bikes I really liked. These are extemely cheap, I know, not the big ticket items you all are used to. It's been a while since I've bought a bike.

Trek Y26 - $315
Trek Bruiser - $360
Cannondale F300 - $510

The components were low level stuff. I was figuring I could upgrade them eventually as I get money or need to. I liked the Full suspension Y26, but at 5'8", the 16 incher seemed a little small for me. I should have asked if I could order it in a different size. I do a lot of on-road biking, but I like to be able to get down and dirty when I have to or even in the rain. I know I would punish the crap out of a road bike, and I've never had a full suspension bike. So, any advice for me? I'm leaning towards the Y26, but I'll have to go back and ask if I can order one slightly bigger. The other 2 caught my eye, but are just hardtails. I'd appreciate any advice.
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Old 06-13-05, 09:57 AM   #2
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get the bruiser
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A hearty ditto.
You really can't find a decent full suspension for under 1000.
I'd be more confident pushing the limits of the Bruiser than the Y26.
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Whatever you do, dont get the Y26. Its crap.
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Each bike is a different beast. The Y26 is just a cheap bike. An alternative for high school kids who don't want a Next or Huffy. The Bruiser is a urban bike, built strong but not designed for cross country use. The Cannondale F300 could be used for cross country, but is mosty desinged as an entry level Cannondale. They put reducers in the head tube to allow a different fork, ie not headshock. This keeps the cost down. The frame is US made, if that is important to you, but it is designed more for dirt roads and such.
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I'm still liking the Y26 even after all the negative comments about it, but I'd like to learn more about the Bruiser.

I beleive what I saw was the Bruiser 1 (after looking at Trek's website). I doubt that they'll sell the Bruiser 2 at that much of a loss. I might upgrade some components in a couple of years if I get this one.

Do you guys have any particular reasons for not liking the Y26? Could I just change the rear shock? Or is it the frame that you guys don't like? I want to know becuase I never had a full suspension bike and this seemed like a good one.

After reading the Trek website, it seems like they're advertising the Bruiser as a good mix between a road bike and a decent mountain bike. I also noticed their 3900 on the website. Should I ask about that?

Sorry for all the questions guys and thanks for all the replies.
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anytime you upgrade-it costs more than getting it when you buy the bike....you'd be better off adding the money in when you by the bike.
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Old 06-13-05, 01:38 PM   #8
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Really? Well, I might just keep everything stock then. If I don't like anything on it, I'll upgrade. Thanks for the heads up.
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The Y26 features:

1. old suspension tecnology that isn't very worthwhile
2. Crappy componets to grind your way down the streets
3. The weight of a small Lemmaux (see Ren & Stimpy)
4. Maintaience that will need to be kept up more for shocks and such
5. Overall not good looking.

I suggest you look for a deal on an 04 or go with something along the bruiser line, if you are certain that you will ride quite a bit get the upper end of your budget ($500) but not the Dale.

How about:

Specalized Hardrock
Kona - ?
DiamondBack
Trek
Gary Fisher


That 26 is not what you want.
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A Y26 is a pogo stick not a bike. The suspention design was considered modern in 1996.
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The Y26 features:

1. old suspension tecnology that isn't very worthwhile
2. Crappy componets to grind your way down the streets
3. The weight of a small Lemmaux (see Ren & Stimpy)
4. Maintaience that will need to be kept up more for shocks and such
5. Overall not good looking.

I suggest you look for a deal on an 04 or go with something along the bruiser line, if you are certain that you will ride quite a bit get the upper end of your budget ($500) but not the Dale.

How about:

Specalized Hardrock
Kona - ?
DiamondBack
Trek
Gary Fisher


That 26 is not what you want.
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Wow... Ok. Um... I'm staying away from the Y26 for sure.

I guess I'll look at the other ones first.
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Old 06-13-05, 02:57 PM   #13
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The Y26 makes me laugh...I say go with the Bruiser 1.
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Are Kona's and Gary Fisher's good?

They also had a high end Gary Fisher, but most of it was Trek stuff.
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The Bruiser is a free ride type bike. It has a very strong frame, however should you be in to cross country riding e.g. no jumps and drops or whatever, than the Cannondale is going to be the most suited to you. It will allow you to go the fastest.
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Trek Sux....

Sorry, but I'm being honest. Look @ other brands, Man.... You'll thank me later.
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killer b doesnt know what he's talking about.
Trek's are fine. I took my 4500 out this evening on a more technical ride than i normally go on, sort of to test it. I am actually quite pleased with what it can handle. Sure it wasn't meant to handle some of the more jumping/drop stuff, but the bruiser is, now I want one of those. My 4500 took a couple of 3-5 foot drops today, and handled nicely. There are better bikes for that purpose, but the 4500 keeps impressing me. My 2 cents.
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Yeah im really sick of him chiming in on everything that even mentions a Trek saying how bad it sucks without giving any reasons.
Anyway, I have a Bruiser and absolutely love it. But like others have stated, it depends on your riding style, what do you plan on doing anyway? And most Gary Fisher models will be available from Trek in similar trim, considering Trek owns Gary Fisher. Gary Fisher also has a line of FR bikes, the Mullet and Opie I believe are the ones similar to your price-range that are based on the Bruiser series. Same components. I actually saw a Mullet today and it looked pretty nice, but the light blue frame is pretty light(colored).
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Hmmm... I'm thinking about the 4300 or the 3900, or the Bruiser. The 4500, although great w/ components, is out of my price range.

How strong are the hard tails? How heavy is the Bruiser?

This is a tough choice. I know I'm going to want to do some drops and some fairly rough stuff, but I also like the speed of a lighter bike, although like I originally mentioned, I'd beat the crap out of a road bike.

And, sorry B. I'm fairly sure I want a Trek. It's just one of the few brands that I've heard so much about over the years.
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Like bruiser said, in the end it is what you will do more of. Go to the LBS, and pick up each one, and there is your weight difference. If you are intent on jumping/freeriding, the 4300 is out though, cause it can probably handle the occasional romp, but the bruiser will suit you better.Of course on the speed factor, test ride each if you can, you never know, you might be able to get a bruiser moving better than a 4300, or vice versa.
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Well, since you're doing drops it looks like the Bruiser would be the better choice. And as far as speed, the weight of the bike really isn't a factor. It's all rolling resistance, such as tire tread. The Bruisers aren't great for that but as long as you don't want to mantain a high speed it will be perfectly fine. If you later decide you want more speed, switch to a set of holyroller tires or something of the sort. And the hardtails are very strong, but the 4500/4300/3900 can't handle much on the FR end of biking.
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Hmmm... I'm thinking about the 4300 or the 3900, or the Bruiser. The 4500, although great w/ components, is out of my price range.

How strong are the hard tails? How heavy is the Bruiser?

This is a tough choice. I know I'm going to want to do some drops and some fairly rough stuff, but I also like the speed of a lighter bike, although like I originally mentioned, I'd beat the crap out of a road bike.

And, sorry B. I'm fairly sure I want a Trek. It's just one of the few brands that I've heard so much about over the years.
How big are the drops?
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Thanks you guys. I'll have to seriously try them both and sleep on it... I wonder if any sales are coming up for father's day...
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How big are the drops?
Well, I'd take whatever I can get... I mean, if its the quickest distance between two points... Plus mountians vary in terms of terrain.

I'm really leaning towards the Bruiser 1 right now.
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Trek Sux....

Sorry, but I'm being honest. Look @ other brands, Man.... You'll thank me later.
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