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Old 07-09-02, 04:29 PM   #1
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Clipless Pedals and Shoes

Hey everyone!
I just bought the $10 clipless shoes from specialized. Now I just need to get the pedals. My question is, is there a pedal out there which can be used as a clipless and regular platform? I mean, just in case if someone else wants to ride my bike, but doesn't have clipless shoes. It can be a decent platfrom. Anyone have any suggestions for what pedals I can get, like described? Oh yea, I forgot, price does matter.......$60 or lower, lowest possible.
One thing, just to let you know, the shoes are the Specialized Men's Sport Mountain Shoe, (need to make sure they are compatible with the pedal).
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Old 07-09-02, 04:36 PM   #2
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In a quick answer to your question... Yes. There are clipless/platform combinations. However, from what I've heard the combo pedals are harder to get clipped into because the actual pedal gets in the way of this. Just depends on you I suppose, if you have access, try out both sets and see what's easier for YOU.. because that's who will be riding the bike most of the time, not your friends!

The shimano 646's are a combo pedal. Here's the link.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.asp?number=27060

There's also the shimano 545's, which are cheaper and dont have the removable end pieces.. but I don't see why you wold want to remove those anyway.
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I use Shimano M536 clipless. These pedals are small enough to stay out of the way of meaty clipless shoes, but provide a more stable platform than a normal clipless when your not wearing clipless pedal shoes. They seem small when not using clipless, but if your only riding around the block and not attacking singletrack without the clipless shoes, you should be fine. You can find them at Performancebike.com. Your shoes should be compatible with these pedals. Shimano mountain pedals have a system called SPD. This just means the type of cleat/engagement system. Most cleats from different pedals/cleat combination made by different brands should fit any shoes. Its simply a matter of attaching the right cleat into the holes in the bottom of your shoe. The instruction booklet that came with the shoes or the specialized internet site should tell you if for some reason a certain pedal system wouldn't work. SPD(Shimano) would definitely work though, aas its somewhat standard.
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Thanks for the info. You learn something everyday........Thanks!
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You might also want to look at the WellgoWPD-103clipless pedals. They have removeable platforms that have pins to give you extra grip with regular shoes. The platform removes to leave you with a regular-size clipless pedal. I haven't used Wellgo pedals, but they aren't supposed to be that bad. Worth a loook.
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I have the Shimano PD-M424 (double sided removable w/rosin cages). This came w/my bike, so I don't have anything to compare it to, but so far so good. BTW, I have Specialized Shoes too.

Here's the pedal
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Depending on your preference, you may also want to think about having a dedicated clipless pedal and a spare platform. Swapping pedals should be just as fast as chaning shoes
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You could try these: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...ype=&estoreid= they're a regular pedal on one side and a clipless on the other!

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Greatnexus, I like your signature....I think I'll the MS bike tour too!
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Thank you.

May be we can hook up on the tour (or on weekend rides ). I am planning to do the 60 milers. Although I should have no problem doing century by that time, because I have been doing 60 miles + trips on weekends. However, I am trying to get a few newbish friends to go on the 60 and push them to their limit.

Should be a fun day. I really enjoyed it last year (we did the Bear Mountain one since the NYC was cancelled).
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I don't think I can handle the 60 mile ride yet. I only do about 20-25 miles/day on the weekends (About 50 miles per weekend if I can). I'm actually going out on a ride tonight. Ride from Sunset park Brooklyn to Bensonhurst via bike path along the Belt Pkwy, then go on the streets to Knapp St. and hop on the path to Breezy point, then head out to the horse riding place on the Belt (exit 15?) and head back home.

What do you ride? I only have a hybrid. And avg. about 13-15 mph depending on the wind.

Where do you ride? Anywhere good in Queens? I would prefer a bike path or a park since sometimes my gf comes along. She feels uncomfortable on the streets.
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If you can do 50, you can do 60

I live on 70th street by 34th ave bike path. Here are some route I typically do:

34th bike path to Flushing Meadow Park (2 loops) and back, about 13 miles.

34th bike path to FMP (2 loops), past Shea stadium to Flushing Bay prominade, up through 100th street and back on 34th bike path, about 18 miles.

34th bike path to FMP and take greenway to Alley Pond park and back, about 22 miles

Northern blvd (dangerous during week days, so weekend only) to Queensboro Bridge, to Central Park about 7 miles, plus about 6 miles per loop in the Park. You can do a lot of miles quickly in the park

Sometimes, I ride out to Bayside to do the North greenway that goes from Little Neck, up the bay, to Whitestone, to Bayside, then back through FMP.

Oh, I ride a 25 lb hardtail mountain bike with semi slick tires. Cruising around 10-20 mph and average around 14 mph. If I ride the Central Park loop, I can push it up to 15+ on good days.

The past two weeks, I have done rides with 5 Borough Bike Club and did a 70 miles route to Oyster Bay (home of Theodore Roosevelt) and a 60 mile route to Long Beach.



I have been collecting links, maps and rides information on my bike page...check it out: http://greatnexus.com/bike

If you know of any other, please let me know and I will add. Otherwise, I normally go to 5BBC website or NYCC.org site for ride information.
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You might want to ask your LBS about SPD plastic snap-ins that did come on some new bikes and were clipped into the clipless pedals. lot of people and stores pulled them off as soon as they got the bike.
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One thing to consider when using SPD with plastic adaptor is that the adaptor side is heavier so the platform usually ended up on the wrong side.

Depending on your preference, either go with a real clipless/platform combo, or buy two separate sets and swap.
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Yea, maybe I should just switch pedals whenever I need to. One question : What does it mean by float? I see like 5 degree or 8 degree float. What is it?
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That's how much twisting allowance you have. If the float is too small you may unclip unexpectedly or you may be uncomfortable because you have to keep everything too straight. If the float is too large, you may not be able to unclip when you wants to...you have to twist your foot out a lot.
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Just an update. I just got my specialized men's sport shoes. Ordered it Tuesday got them today (Friday), they send them fast. Now, I need to search for the pedals. I think I'm getting the shimano 545 clipless pedals. One question: Do the cleats come with the pedals? Like at pricepoint, they don't say if it does. Do they usually come with cleats?
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They should come with the pedals...although my LBS did not give them to me, they did however put them on my shoes that I purchased from them (at a later date).
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Yes, they will come with the pedals!
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One last question: For the Shimano PD-M545 Clipless pedals, What is the size of the screw part of it/ the axle/nut? I'm not sure if it's compatible with my bike. I know my bike has bulletproof platform pedals, that I got at my LBS, they said my size is the normal size for mountain bikes. Anyways, Can you help me?
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Padal / crank interface should be standard size, unless you have really cheap no name brand crank.
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I just got my pedals and put them on my bike. I searched through the Bike Forums to find tips on clipless pedals. Just a question, I can click into the pedal without a problem, even tested my self, I don't have the unclipping part as good as clipping in. On my right foot, whenever I unclip my knee smacks into the handlebar. Am I putting to much force to take them out? Anyone have any other good tips?
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Think of the motion of squashing a bug! You want to twist your foot, but not your whole leg. If you've got the spring tension all the way loose (remeber two sides, loosen both spring equally), you shouldn't have to twist too far!

You can also practice by putting on a pair of shiny red heels, call yourself Dorthy, get a small ugly dog named Toto and clicking your heels together and say, "There's no place like home, there's no place like home." SAME MOTION!

BTW, your pedals should be 9/16" for 3-piece cranks. Cheapo, 1-piece steel cranks use 1/2", but most mt. bikes use the 9/16"

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