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Old 06-26-05, 07:33 AM   #1
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Steel studs on wet roots and wet rocks

undefinedAfter a rain in my favorite trail (West Rocks) the roots and rocks are very slippery but I still try it because it is a challenge and it makes me concentrate. My knobys are pretty much useless.
What is a good rain tire.
Anybody try steel studs for traction on wet roots and rocks.
Whaduya think?
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Old 06-26-05, 08:27 AM   #2
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I tried my firends rigid MTB some years ago that he still had his winter tires (with studs) on. They're awesome on ice and snow, but they made it way worse on rocks. I didn't ride enough on roots to tell if it helped or not.
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Old 06-26-05, 09:38 AM   #3
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Please don't do this. Ever. You wanna see mountain bikers loose trails? On rock races the effects would be mere surface scarring. However on roots this would be so utterly destructive I would start closing your trails.

You need to watch some vid of west coast and how wet it gets here. You should work on your skills and finding a low durometer tire. If these don't work, keep working the skills. There isn't much you can't ride when wet. North shore is living proof of this skill wise.
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Old 06-26-05, 10:40 AM   #4
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ditto what mael said.

if you want tires that have traction for wet and slippery conditions, look for tires with soft, tacky rubber. they wear faster, but they grip a lot better too.
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Old 06-26-05, 09:39 PM   #5
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Or you could try lowering your tire PSI for more traction.
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I have a couple of studded tires for winter use. Commercial studded tires are pretty expensive, and homemade ones are a lot of work to make and wear out pretty fast.

The studs used for ice are in most cases pretty small, I doubt they would do much damage to the trail unless there were a lot of people on that trail started running them, the same way studs on cars eventually grove pavement, rather than shredding it. But I wouldn't bother getting them for anything other than ice and hard-packed snow conditions.

They will do nothing in mud, they will be lot worse on rocks and gravel, and they will probably offer little advantage on roots. The only summertime application I can see them being any improvement is on skinnies and stuff made of wet boards. Generally where traction is a problem on wet stunts people nail down wire mesh or another traction surface anyways, so there is no real point.

Studded tires are a massive advantage in the winter though. I've always thought that guys who put away the bikes in winter are skipping half the season, at least in southern ontario, where the snow never gets all that deep.
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Old 06-26-05, 10:19 PM   #7
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your an idiot!
if you want wet proformance run a soft coumpund tire.
i dont really understand most of the people on this forum, up here maxxis minions are a standard.
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Thought this would be a shoe thread. Anyhow, I've got toe spikes on my shoes and they don't help at all on wet rocks/roots. Even more slippery than my shoes are otherwise and I don't see how it would work well with tires, either. I'm running Specialized Fear Control/Master and no problems. Of course, it hasn't rained here for about a week.
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I should say, for winter and ICE...ok I can see it, and would consider it myself. But otherwise I stand by my statements.
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Back on topic: Just get some better (i.e. softer tires) tires and perhaps lower the pressure. Play around with it to see what works for you. The more you ride in those conditions, the better you'll get.
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What they said, the pracitce is whats really going to help. Right now i cant really afford to buy some different tires, sounds weak right, well im in college, and i squeked by buying this bike i have now. But lower pressure should help, and try not to ride when the trails are to wet, I know around us they threatened to close some of them down for good becuase of the wet riding and all the erroision it caused. Its alot of fun though to ride in the wet, really puts you to the test..
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What they said, the pracitce is whats really going to help. Right now i cant really afford to buy some different tires, sounds weak right, well im in college, and i squeked by buying this bike i have now. But lower pressure should help, and try not to ride when the trails are to wet, I know around us they threatened to close some of them down for good becuase of the wet riding and all the erroision it caused. Its alot of fun though to ride in the wet, really puts you to the test..
Ya. Im in college also and I have a family I have to buy for. My wife just got a Haro and the kids need bikes. Two years ago we got Canadian tire bikes for the kids and they were junk. Its not fair to the kids but quality bikes cost some more dollars. Worth it mind you but I have to do it a bit at a time.
I ride 22# on the front and 32# on the rear. The tires are 2.00
My last bike was a Brodie and had different tires that grabbed quite well but the bike I have now has nobbies on it and I can really notice the different because I have been doing the same trails for 3 years now.
I never thought of the erosion of the trail when it is wet. I will watch that now. Thanks for the heads up.
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