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Old 07-10-05, 08:37 PM   #1
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SRAM products: Good or POS?

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are this good quality products?

I'd also like to know if there's some sort of chart with the Sram and Shimano equivalents.

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Old 07-10-05, 08:41 PM   #2
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they're good.i love their new shifters and xo rear derailler.
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The only Shimano part I have on my bike is the XT cassette. I have a SRAM X.9 Derailluer, and an X.7 Shifter. I run SRAM chain, with a Powerlink. 9 Speed single ring setup. Shifts really well... nice and snappy. It has a stronger spring and beats shimano in muddy drivetrain shifting.
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SRAM's shifters are the best I've usedon a mountain bike. SRAM chains are terrific, and work well with any brand/age of drivetrain.
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Not sure of any chart but XO is comparable to XTR, X9 to XT, X7 to LX, (from here down the list these are approximations) 5.0 to DEORE, 4.0 to ALIVIO and generally 3.0 to ACERA and on down. You've also got some others in the mix like Shimano's SAINT for heavy duty stuff. The best I could recommend is to go to each co.'s website and check them out. Lots of good info on both. Shimano is smooth and has been around forever for a good reason but I'm running X9 right now and love the crispness. SRAM is part (or parent) of a bunch of companies that all make some really good stuff.
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Now there is a marketing ploy if I ever heard one. A Heavy Duty rear deraillieur. Any deraillieur will break if hit just right. The deraillieur is the weak point of the mtb drivetrain.
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I love SRAM chains. I'll be trying out some of their other products when I can afford to get my hardtail back on the trail.
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Anyone have any experience with the SRAM dual driver? Its a 3 speed internal geared hub with a 7 speed cassette yeilding 21 speeds.
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I would love to try one, but I haven't a clue where to find one to test-ride. A search on "SRAM dual drive" will yield mixed opinions on the efficiency of the low internal gear.
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Now there is a marketing ploy if I ever heard one. A Heavy Duty rear deraillieur. Any deraillieur will break if hit just right. The deraillieur is the weak point of the mtb drivetrain.
Oh no, you don't get it.

See the Saint derailleur eliminates the "weak link", the derailleur hanger. The thing sits very "strongly" on the axel so that when you hit a rock on the derailleur going 20MPH downhill, the derailleur hanger will no longer snap.

See, everything is so much stronger ;-)
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Had the opportunity to ride my friends c'dale yesterday with SRAM x9 on the rear and who knows what shifters. 1st time i have used SRAM and i had mixed feelings. the X9 is a nice piece of kit. shifts sharp and quickly. with the shifters themselves i had a bit of trouble getting used to them. they are fast. very fast. and easy to use, however i dound that i was getting unintentional shifts by moving my hands around where they would lean on the shifters. This could be due to the fact that im not used to them and also the fact that the shifters themselves seem to have a very short throw.

all in all, i think the package is good once gotten used to, and when i get my new bike as well as when components fail on my current bike ill be looking at getting the shimano stuff replaced by SRAM, as im not a huge fan of flippy shifters and rapid rise.
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Oh no, you don't get it.

See the Saint derailleur eliminates the "weak link", the derailleur hanger. The thing sits very "strongly" on the axel so that when you hit a rock on the derailleur going 20MPH downhill, the derailleur hanger will no longer snap.

See, everything is so much stronger ;-)

so instead of bending or breaking the hanger, you bend your axle or you break the cage. guess what... no derailleur is indestructable, and the saint is incompatable with a lot of bikes (it uses a 10mm axle), is really expensive, and still suffers from ****ty shimano shifting.
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Old 07-11-05, 01:19 AM   #13
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Anyone have any experience with the SRAM dual driver? Its a 3 speed internal geared hub with a 7 speed cassette yeilding 21 speeds.
And isn't suitable for MTB use. It's a comfort bike part at best
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And isn't suitable for MTB use. It's a comfort bike part at best

Do you have a picture or link of that thing? Haven't seen one before, I doubt if one even has made it to our shores.
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Old 07-11-05, 01:37 AM   #15
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I used to work at a bike shop, and when we closed I had time to screw around. I would ride bikes or chill until I had to count some money. I got time to try out the x7 on the jamis dakar? I think that was it, some jamis with dual suspension in a series of 3 models, fox fork, don't remember so well. anyways, i was having same problem as HDTVKSS where i would accidently shift when i jumped off any thing. that was also the same moment i decided dual suspension wasnt for me I'm still interested in the sram lineup because my problem would be to simply rearrange my thumb when riding, but right now i got an LX that's holding fine. I love to ride on these walls we have at our campus, 6 inches wide, and i've fallen off em smashing my derailler with its still working perfectly.
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I am very pleased with the SRAM products I have. X.7 shifters+derailleur, PC69 chain, PG970 cassette. Plus they own Avid, Rockshox and truvativ, well priced stuff too
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Oh no, you don't get it.

See the Saint derailleur eliminates the "weak link", the derailleur hanger. The thing sits very "strongly" on the axel so that when you hit a rock on the derailleur going 20MPH downhill, the derailleur hanger will no longer snap.

See, everything is so much stronger ;-)
But a deraillieurcan still be used if a hanger gets broken remember the only bolt onto the hanger that is if there is no bends on the deraillieur itself. You also have to remember a deraillieur can break. I've broken several derailieurs at the knuckle and sheared the jockey gears off. So it's not me who doesn't get it. You don't.
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How do you pronounce or what is the phonetic spelling of SRAM? Ive heard it several ways. Is it like Fram filters but with an S? or does it have an SH sound.
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I always thought it was S-Ram but all the shops i heard pronouned it Shram, or Schram.
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I always thought it was S-Ram but all the shops i heard pronouned it Shram, or Schram.
exactly...I thought the same. But when the shop says Schram and I call it S-Ram...I feel like an idiot considering they should be in the know...
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Oh, they own Truvativ and Avid...I didn't notice that. I guess they do have cranksets and brakes.

There's no "H" in SRAM. It's an American company, so inserting one would not be consistent with American English.
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Oh, they own Truvativ and Avid...I didn't notice that. I guess they do have cranksets and brakes.
And Rockshox, I believe.
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And Rockshox, I believe.
That's correct
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SRAM is fairly new to the MtnBiking community, but their prices sometimes aren't justified....
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