Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-12-05, 09:44 PM   #1
dvdauthority
The Cannondale Kid
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Baltimore/DC area
Bikes: Cannondale Prophet 2000
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Type of rear xtr derailler

Ok, I probably spelled "derailler" wrong, but I'm not into the French version...

I'm moving all of my stuff from a Cannondale Jekyll 800 to a new Cannondale Prophet 2000 and the bike shop told me I needed a new front derailler - so I bought one (an "E" type at that). Well, I want my bike to be the best it can be, so I'm looking into a new rear derailler (XTR), but don't know what kind I need: long cage, short cage, etc.

Anyone know right off the top of their head?
dvdauthority is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 09:47 PM   #2
zx108
Senior Member
 
zx108's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: N.J.
Bikes:
Posts: 1,545
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
what about saint.
zx108 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 10:01 PM   #3
dvdauthority
The Cannondale Kid
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Baltimore/DC area
Bikes: Cannondale Prophet 2000
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I don't know what that means...is it a brand? If so, I want to stick with Shimano since all of my other stuff is that brand.
dvdauthority is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 10:06 PM   #4
zx108
Senior Member
 
zx108's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: N.J.
Bikes:
Posts: 1,545
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
oh sorry, saint is a category of shimano like deore or xtr. search shimano saint in froogle and you should see a rear derauller there.
zx108 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 10:16 PM   #5
MadMan2k
Canon fiend
 
MadMan2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: old peugot frankenbike
Posts: 3,914
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think you need a specific type of hub to use a Saint derraileur.

Short cage is supposedly better since the derrailuer doesn't move around as much, and it should shift faster also. But it might not work if you have like a 34 tooth big cog on the cassette...
__________________
jonbuder.com
MadMan2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 10:48 PM   #6
kritter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 204
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ive got a short cage XT with a 34...shifts great.
kritter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 11:48 PM   #7
KleinMp99
New to bikeforýms.net
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Bikes:
Posts: 2,202
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Get a short cage xtr rear derailleur.



Quote:
Originally Posted by zx108
what about saint.
:slaps you in the face:
KleinMp99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-05, 11:56 PM   #8
stapfam
Time for a change.
 
stapfam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Posts: 19,915
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Short cage is not the accepted derailler for a mountain bike rear cassette, but as some riders seem to be using it, investigate as to whether it is suitable. I personally would go long cage as this is what I and all my mates have always used. Good choice on the XTR by the way, but I have the rapid rise version on one bike. This reverses the action of the changer, which takes some getting used to, but it does improve downshifts for me.
stapfam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-05, 06:00 AM   #9
shane45
Ouch!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canada
Bikes:
Posts: 453
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'd go with a long cage.

Also - as mentioned - the new XTR derailleurs are "low normal" which I personally detest. Regardless, there are still some older XTR derailleurs that are "high normal". Be aware that if you get the new rapid rise (low normal) piece, that your shifter will work in reverse. That is, where your shifter used to shift down gears, it will now shift up.
shane45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-05, 06:33 AM   #10
Hopper
Ride bike or bike ride?
 
Hopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Bikes: MongoosePro DH, Dart custom road bike, .243 Racing FR street bike
Posts: 1,447
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You should also look at getting a shimano road derialleur, I got one and they hold up to all kinds of abuse, crashing, DJing, DH racing..... Also the short cage on them makes them much crisper and helps keep them away from pesky rocks
Hopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-05, 07:09 AM   #11
LowCel 
Throw the stick!!!!
 
LowCel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Charleston, WV
Bikes: GMC Denali
Posts: 17,588
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you go with XTR I would go with the long cage derailleur. The short cages are a little more crisp on the shifting but seem to be a little more picky as far as tuning goes. They tend to ghost shift a little more often, the long cage derailleur is a little more giving.

That being said, I believe that XT is 95% as nice of a derailleur as XTR and costs almost 50% less.
__________________
I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.
LowCel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-05, 01:39 PM   #12
zx108
Senior Member
 
zx108's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: N.J.
Bikes:
Posts: 1,545
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by KleinMp99
:slaps you in the face:
why am i getting slapped?
zx108 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:52 PM.