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Old 07-14-05, 12:29 PM   #1
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I'm a relative newcomer to mountain biking and like technical, rocky trails as well as fast single track. My friend has a pair of Time pedals (not sure which model) that she offered to give me as she now has egg beaters. I'm guessing they're ATAC's. Since I'm a newcomer, I'm off my bike alot on technical climbs. The Crank Brother's Mallet looks like a perfect pedal for me since it has a large platform that I can use to get pedaling again once I'm off the bike on a climb. I plan on starting out with the free pedals (duh) and then looking at something else. How much does weight matter? The Mallet's weigh in at 500g, which seems high when compared to egg beaters.

Any shoe recommendations. The Specialized MTB comp looks nice.

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Mallets and Time ATAC Z's weigh more because they have a platform sort of built into them. Don't plan on doing much riding on them in regular shoes, though. In the big scheme of things the extra weight isn't a huge deal to me.

If you don't really care about the extra footspace on the Mallets and Z's, the basic ATAC's (or Eggs, etc) will work fine.

You can get really good deals on shoe/pedal combo's if you shop around.
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I'm not planning on pedaling with anything other than clip-in shoes. I am also thinking about the Candys, but they have a smaller platform than the Mallets. I guess after I get used to clipless pedals and build up my strength, I'll be able to stay on the bike more. Maybe I'll just use the Time's for a while and if I don't like them, I'll switch to either a larger or smaller platform. Now, I just have to figure out what kind of shoes to get.
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I'm not planning on pedaling with anything other than clip-in shoes. I am also thinking about the Candys, but they have a smaller platform than the Mallets. I guess after I get used to clipless pedals and build up my strength, I'll be able to stay on the bike more. Maybe I'll just use the Time's for a while and if I don't like them, I'll switch to either a larger or smaller platform. Now, I just have to figure out what kind of shoes to get.
There are basically three options on shoes; that I can think of anyway: 1) a dedicated bike shoe (often referred to with a smile as 'disco style'); hard to walk around in 2) a hiking shoe/boot style (like a Lake MX) which is not bad to hike around in for short distances and 3) a skater shoe style (like 6-6-1 Launch) which could pass completely for a skater/casual shoe; especially if you take the cleats off. From 1 to 3 the sole flex tends to increase and related pedaling efficiency tends to decrease. Depends on what you like and plan to ride.

I'd try on whatever you are interested in before you buy, if possible. Cycling shoes tend to run narrow and small to size.
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Just picked up a pair of shoes. Went to the closest bike shop and they only had Shimano on the floor. The ones they had were ok, but they didn't have my size. The guy helping me offered to run to their warehouse down the street and get the right size. He came back with a couple of shoes that were left over from their tent sale last weekend. They're closing out all brands other than Shimano and had a pair of Nike's that normally sell for $110. They were on sale for $40 . They actually fit better than the Shimano's, so I didn't ask any more questions and decided to pick them up. I guess if they suck, I'm not out that much, but they seem to fit well. They are the TVR 3 and look to be last year's model. So, I should be set for a little while. Hopefully. Thanks for the replies.
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Just picked up a pair of shoes. Went to the closest bike shop and they only had Shimano on the floor. The ones they had were ok, but they didn't have my size. The guy helping me offered to run to their warehouse down the street and get the right size. He came back with a couple of shoes that were left over from their tent sale last weekend. They're closing out all brands other than Shimano and had a pair of Nike's that normally sell for $110. They were on sale for $40 . They actually fit better than the Shimano's, so I didn't ask any more questions and decided to pick them up. I guess if they suck, I'm not out that much, but they seem to fit well. They are the TVR 3 and look to be last year's model. So, I should be set for a little while. Hopefully. Thanks for the replies.
Sounds like you got a great deal! Have fun!
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There are basically three options on shoes; that I can think of anyway: 1) a dedicated bike shoe (often referred to with a smile as 'disco style'); hard to walk around in 2) a hiking shoe/boot style (like a Lake MX) which is not bad to hike around in for short distances and 3) a skater shoe style (like 6-6-1 Launch) which could pass completely for a skater/casual shoe; especially if you take the cleats off. From 1 to 3 the sole flex tends to increase and related pedaling efficiency tends to decrease. Depends on what you like and plan to ride.

I'd try on whatever you are interested in before you buy, if possible. Cycling shoes tend to run narrow and small to size.
Hate to dig up an old feed but this shoe option was spot on my problem. OK, I am having one hell of a time trying to figure out what to use on what. I am a long time roadie and use speedplays on my road bikes, no problem , very predictable, much power, etc. HOWEVER on the D***
MTB when I use clipless I usually crash on the technical stuff . If I go with platforms my climbing/speed suffers but I like the overall feel . What are most of you riding?
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Since I'm a newcomer, I'm off my bike alot on technical climbs. The Crank Brother's Mallet looks like a perfect pedal for me since it has a large platform that I can use to get pedaling again once I'm off the bike on a climb.
I'm new to trail riding also. I have been using Crank Bros. Mallets for about 3 weeks now. They are great for starting on an uphill because you can start pedalling right away without clipping in first. Usually I just have to wiggle my foot a bit and then I am clipped in.

I like these better than my previous SPD pedals because with those you had to be clipped in to pedal. Not so good for starting while over uphill or technical sections.
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Mallets and Time ATAC Z's weigh more because they have a platform sort of built into them. Don't plan on doing much riding on them in regular shoes, though. In the big scheme of things the extra weight isn't a huge deal to me.

If you don't really care about the extra footspace on the Mallets and Z's, the basic ATAC's (or Eggs, etc) will work fine.

You can get really good deals on shoe/pedal combo's if you shop around.
The Mallets are rideable without cleats, but I wouldn't do serious riding this way.

To the poster, I recommend going over to Pricepoint and find a Mallet combo with a shoe that you like.
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Hate to dig up an old feed but this shoe option was spot on my problem. OK, I am having one hell of a time trying to figure out what to use on what. I am a long time roadie and use speedplays on my road bikes, no problem , very predictable, much power, etc. HOWEVER on the D***
MTB when I use clipless I usually crash on the technical stuff . If I go with platforms my climbing/speed suffers but I like the overall feel . What are most of you riding?
For offroad, the big dogs are Eggbeaters and Time. Everything else has a reputation for clogging in the mud.

I ride mallets and I stay in them 98% of the time. I would only clip out when I was unacustomed to clipping out.

At this point, I think I would rather stay attached to the bike for big crashes. The bike does afford a certain degree of armor.

But if you're used to clipping out of road pedals, you should probably just stay with your clips off-road. No doubt you will have some crashes but ... it goes with the territory. If you can't take it, go back to the road.
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GO to pricepoint.com and look at some of the deals with egg beater's and a shoe. I know you can get a combo deal for 120
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For offroad, the big dogs are Eggbeaters and Time. Everything else has a reputation for clogging in the mud.

I ride mallets and I stay in them 98% of the time. I would only clip out when I was unacustomed to clipping out.

At this point, I think I would rather stay attached to the bike for big crashes. The bike does afford a certain degree of armor.

But if you're used to clipping out of road pedals, you should probably just stay with your clips off-road. No doubt you will have some crashes but ... it goes with the territory. If you can't take it, go back to the road.
Thanks for all of the advice. I will always be a loyal roadie, I bought a MTB out of a perverse curiosity, kind of like hiring the services of a $20 hooker . It is a cheap thrill and nothing more.
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Thanks for all of the advice. I will always be a loyal roadie, I bought a MTB out of a perverse curiosity, kind of like hiring the services of a $20 hooker . It is a cheap thrill and nothing more.
For playin' around in the hills, I'd consider an excellent platform; my personal preference is the Wellgo B67. Sure, you give up a little bit of power stroke but for bangin' around and not being committed to a bike shoe (if you like to bike/hike/climb all on the same trip like I do) I think high quality platforms are an excellent choice.

I put my Time ATAC Z's back on for long (half day or more) rides.
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Thanks for the advice Juniper , decided to go with platforms , bought a set of SPDs and do not get much more power, they seem to be a definite liability on technical stuff. Now the right shoe for the speedplay platforms.
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