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Old 07-22-05, 07:38 PM   #1
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Advantages and Disadvantages to..

Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum, and I have a few questions about shocks in general.

Right now I'm just riding a Nakamura mountain bike, no front or back shocks, and it's getting kind of old.
I'm looking into getting a new bike, but my big question is what are the advantages and disadvantages to both a front suspension bike, and a full suspension bike? I'm looking at spending 500-600 dollars so I want to be sure with what Im buying(I'm not asking for recommendations, though greatly appreciated, I know there's numerous threads on buying guides).

I just want to know what set up is more suited to what sort of use because I've been riding shock-less for as long as I've been riding.

muchos gracias!
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For your price, no ifs ands or buts - do not get a FS bike. At that pricepoint, the parts will be very weak.

You can get a nice front suspension bike for 500 bucks. See the 500 dollar hardtails thread - and outfit it with clipless pedals and shoes, or solid platforms and armor (for you) depending on your riding style to get to the 600 dollar price target.
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I think are wrong Snuffleupagus, FS bikes at both Dicks, Sports Authority, and general sporting good stores have come a long way in the past few years. Have you actually ridden them lately? Most stores have MTB specialsts and are ready to answer your questions, as well as follow up tune-ups and service, as well as repairs! You could save a lot of money also, and that doesn't hurt! We all like to save money, right? So why get a front suspension bike for $500, when a full suspension bike is also available at $500? I have Trek and Specialized FS bikes, and my FS I purchased at Sports Authority blows them both away, just the other day, I drove a FS bike from Dicks Sporting Goods and it blew away my Custom FS MTB from an exclusive California Custom MTB builder. So don't discount the big boys just because they're a little cheaper, nothing wrong with saving a buck, if you get the same quality and service.
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I think are wrong Snuffleupagus, FS bikes at both Dicks, Sports Authority, and general sporting good stores have come a long way in the past few years. Have you actually ridden them lately? Most stores have MTB specialsts and are ready to answer your questions, as well as follow up tune-ups and service, as well as repairs! You could save a lot of money also, and that doesn't hurt! We all like to save money, right? So why get a front suspension bike for $500, when a full suspension bike is also available at $500? I have Trek and Specialized FS bikes, and my FS I purchased at Sports Authority blows them both away, just the other day, I drove a FS bike from Dicks Sporting Goods and it blew away my Custom FS MTB from an exclusive California Custom MTB builder. So don't discount the big boys just because they're a little cheaper, nothing wrong with saving a buck, if you get the same quality and service.
You sir are completely wrong, would you perhaps be a troll? If so have a nice life.

1)You claim you have a custom built FS bike that is fine tuned to be amazing performancewise, then claim that a $500 single pivot bike with no stable platform valved suspension on it blows that fine tuned custom bike out of the water. That right there is backwards, and is completely fishy.

2)You claim as well that trek and specialized has nothing on a DEPOT Store bike. Sorry to tell you this, I hate to admit it as well, the fuel pedals way better than a $500 fs bike will ever, specialized has perhaps the best suspension design ever thought of the horst link 4 bar. Pedals better feels better than that pos $500 FS Rig that Dicks sells.
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cheath - You have me curious, what custom fs mtb do you have? If a bike from Dick's is nicer than a custom bike I want to make sure that I stay as far away from that builder as possible.

El Capitan - please stick with the information that Snuffleupagus gave you. He is dead on with his advice. I have never seen a full suspension bike under $900 that would compare to a nice $500 hardtail. The full suspension bikes that cost under $900 are not efficient at all. When you ride them the bike will be wasting half of your energy because of it's design and low end shock.
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KonaRider24 - Be careful now, he rides 50-100 miles a day in terrain you'd think was unpassable.
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KonaRider24 - Be careful now, he rides 50-100 miles a day in terrain you'd think was unpassable.
Yeah I know, I only ride over stuff with a hardtail that he and his FS rig would deem unpassable.
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I think are wrong Snuffleupagus, FS bikes at both Dicks, Sports Authority, and general sporting good stores have come a long way in the past few years. Have you actually ridden them lately? Most stores have MTB specialsts and are ready to answer your questions, as well as follow up tune-ups and service, as well as repairs! You could save a lot of money also, and that doesn't hurt! We all like to save money, right? So why get a front suspension bike for $500, when a full suspension bike is also available at $500? I have Trek and Specialized FS bikes, and my FS I purchased at Sports Authority blows them both away, just the other day, I drove a FS bike from Dicks Sporting Goods and it blew away my Custom FS MTB from an exclusive California Custom MTB builder. So don't discount the big boys just because they're a little cheaper, nothing wrong with saving a buck, if you get the same quality and service.
I bought a full squish rig in 03 for $900 becuse the frame fit me perfect ad it had good components on it. Where did the bike company save money? On the fork and shock which I swapped out over time as I got the money(fox and 5th element air).Now your gonna tell me that Dicks is got bikes that kill everything else? I've seen their MTB specialist,yeah right.Please post the name of your custom bike so no one will waste their money on one,thank you.
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I suggest you have a look at the Haro V4.

It is 500 bucks and is quite the bike. The only thing I didn't like on it were the Trenko brake levers (easy swap out).
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I suggest you have a look at the Haro V4.

It is 500 bucks and is quite the bike. The only thing I didn't like on it were the Trenko brake levers (easy swap out).
That IS a lot of bike for 500 bones. You're quite right about the brakes though, Tektro brakes are a little iffy. They'll work, but would be the first thing I'd swap out.
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