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View Poll Results: Have you ever been in a collision with an oncoming mountain biker on a trail?
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Old 08-04-02, 03:13 PM   #1
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Ever been in a head-on collision with another mountain bike rider?

This is my first try at posting a poll, so bear with me if I goof up

Have you ever been riding off-road and collided with a rider going the other way?
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Old 08-04-02, 03:22 PM   #2
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Yes. More often than not it happens on steep switch backs with newbie riders or tourists. There is a rule of thumb on the mountain

"Those going uphill have the right of way PERIOD"

Its a simple rule some people forget.

Luckily I am 6'5 and 250ish and I almost never get hurt by one of these trail mongers.
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Old 08-04-02, 04:13 PM   #3
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not on a mtn. bike but I once dropped in on a ramp (half pipe)and someone on the other side dropped in just as I was coming up the opposite transition.

it really really really sucked.
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Old 08-04-02, 06:22 PM   #4
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Last week on the cycle path en route to the trails..
bar to bar with a woman...
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Old 08-04-02, 11:26 PM   #5
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Last week, racing down the trail/shortcut to my buddys house while he was racing to mine.

A slight bend in my rim but nothing too bad
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Old 08-05-02, 12:38 AM   #6
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Uphill has the rideaway?

I always thought it would be the other way around.
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Old 08-05-02, 01:53 AM   #7
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It's easier for the person going down to stop and start again.The one going uphill has a harder time getting started.
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Old 08-05-02, 03:07 PM   #8
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It's easier for the person going down to stop and start again.The one going uphill has a harder time getting started.
Makes sense.
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Old 08-05-02, 03:23 PM   #9
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Actually it's easer for the person going up hill to stop (if that is even necessary) in most cases (in my area) because when Iím going down hill I BOMB and if I have to stop all of a sudden it doesnít work. I do understand the start back up thing though. So I guess the actually rule of yield the trail applies to both directions, it's the person in the better position that should actually yield.
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Old 08-05-02, 07:08 PM   #10
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here in norway michigan i was riding on a trail and a section of the trail went into a + i was going north the other was going west we just missed by a hair but idont know about the other rider but my adrenalin was pumpin
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In the summer of 1994, I was riding up a long trail that goes from the foothills of Mt. Spokane to the summit, with a friend of mine, Chad. We had made it up the first little section of singletrack and emerged onto a grassy fire road with one packed track.

We were approaching what I knew was a blind sweeping 80-degree corner. I was ahead of Chad, and I was watching the corner carefully as I approached it at perhaps 7 or 8mph going uphill. I yelled "HEEEEEEYYY-OH!" with the specific intention of alerting any riders coming downhill on the fireroad and around the corner, knowing they could be going upwards of 20mph.

I later learned from Chad that, in the immediate aftermath of the collision that followed, I had acted intelligently, going to the aid of the other rider while sending Chad around the corner to warn off others (which turned out to be a good idea, as he was with friends). I even evaluated the damage to his bike and mine (my genuine US-built Paramount's frame was totalled ). The other rider left with his friends, and I then succumbed to concussion, at which point Chad went to call for help.

Due to the concussion, the first things I remember were about an hour after the collision... vague memories of another group of riders covering me with their jersies, an ambulance crew putting a neck collar on me and strapping me to a body board so they could put me in the bed of a 4-wheel-drive and get me out to where the ambulance was able to reach. My parents had made it there (a 45-minute drive) by the time I was being put into the ambulance.

My helmet had evidently hit the other rider's helmet, judging by the dent in the front. The concussion was still deep enough that I had evidently lost bladder control, so I'm quite sure I'd be dead or a veggie without the helmet. It took about a week for the mental "fog" to clear up. There were other injuries, and my left shoulder has never been quite the same since.

In the aftermath, I modified my own downhilling practices, realizing that I could easily have inflicted this situation on others by riding faster than I could stop.
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Almost on saturday. I was riding some singletrack at Saratoga Gap and this guy was going something like 20 mph and I was going 10 the other way. There was dirt and bushes on my right side and steep fall into trees on his right. when the guy saw me he started braking and almost lost control and fell over the edge and I scraped the bushes and held steady. There was barely enough room there for one person to ride, and speed limit was 15 mph. The guy was apologetic and pretty shaken, but I was pretty tired after long climb and didn't say anything.
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this might be off topic or maybe just a rant....

but I REALLY hate people that ride out of control or over their heads.

if your going too fast to stop or hauling a$$ around a blind corner eventually your going to get hurt or hurt someone.

or one of those gremlins is going to jab a stick in your front wheel.

ah...I feel better now...
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this might be off topic or maybe just a rant....

but I REALLY hate people that ride out of control or over their heads.

if your going too fast to stop or hauling a$$ around a blind corner eventually your going to get hurt or hurt someone.

or one of those gremlins is going to jab a stick in your front wheel.

ah...I feel better now...
Anytime you go into a blind corner, hill, descent, drop-off, fast or slow, you should announce your presence. A quick "Rider" will go a long way in helping to reduce trail collisions. It's simple but effective.
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Old 08-07-02, 08:39 AM   #15
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5 weeks ago I was at a local riding spot (Beacon), riding through a brush tunnel that is in a draw between two peaks. I came into it pretty fast, but scrubbed some speed just in case someone was coming the other way. Unfortunately there was someone, and they didnít scrub any speed. The impact was bar to bar, head to head. It happened so fast that I just felt the impact, tumbled into the bushes, then sat up to evaluate my damages - none. I was very surprised - a dent in my helmet, nothing more. The other was dressed in all the trailer park latest fashions, smelled of cheap beer, not wearing a helmet - and paid for it. Right above his left eye there was a 1.5 inch gash flowing quite a bit of blood, also I think one of his fingers were broken. Two of his buddies showed up a minute or two after the crash and immediately started pointing and laughing at him. He refused any help, and took off. When I finally looked at my bike I realized it had took most of the damage. My Easton CT2 carbon bar was shattered, the optical gear displays on my shifters were broken, and there was a small dent in the lowers of my Atom race fork. The damage to my bike was probably twice as much as the total value of the bike that hit me - of course the 10-15 stitches he probably needed, and no use of one of his hands for quite a while made me think that I came out ahead. Itís kind of hard to lay blame, but I was riding within my abilities Ė and I donít think he had any abilities to begin with.
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Itís kind of hard to lay blame, but I was riding within my abilities Ė and I donít think he had any abilities to begin with.
That is the thing one has to remember.

one may be the best damm rider in the country but when you throw unskilled riders, poor drivers, dogs, children, rain, cats etc into the mix, your surroundings becomes unpredictable.

as many here have testified, one bad crash can really ruin your riding for a bit, if not kill you.(or the other person)

ride hard, ride safe.
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one may be the best damm rider in the country but when you throw unskilled riders, poor drivers, dogs, children, rain, cats etc into the mix, your surroundings becomes unpredictable.
Your right -
Originally I was thinking it was the other guyís fault, but realized I was definitely the more skilled rider. Hindsight being what it is, I would have gone through that section at a crawl to one side of the trail (like I did last night) just in case. Even if it is the other guy's fault - if I can keep it from happening I should.
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I was riding Wilder Ranch solo about a month ago. I had stopped at the bench at the top of eucalyptus grove for a smoke break, as I often do. I then proceeded to head up to the cutter trail, one I had not riden before. I hadn't seen another rider for more than 30 minutes, and in my stony state of mind, I felt that the forest belonged to me...

As I was soaring down a banked sweeping left hander, (which rose around the apex to mirror the approach I had just taken), I cut across to straighten out the turn and keep my speed with a slight drift involved... did I mention how fast I was going?

As I looked up the trail while passing the apex of the turn, I saw not 1, not 2, but 3 riders out of the saddle side by side barreling down at me (I was on the left hand side of the trail).

I was so shocked to actually see anyone out that far in the park, that I freaked out, complete over reaction... I locked my front up somethin' fierce and the next thing I knew, I was on the ground in a tumbling, bouncing dust cloud of pain!

I bent my front rim, tweaked my bars (no big deal), shattered my polar heart rate monitor, broke my shades, road rashed my whole left side including bruises, and still remained clipped in with my right foot.

As the three riders skidded to a stop in front of me I realized, sober now, that for the first time ever, marijuana had made my riding experience worse rather than better. Oh well, it was just that one time...

My advice: Get stoned, but don't forget where you are! I didn't have a head on collision, but thinking that one was inevitable, caused me to do said damage on my own anyhow... At least I had witnesses this time, usually when I eat big ****, I'm the only one there to appreciate it!
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