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Old 08-09-05, 05:48 PM
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Snapped my XT STI shifter yesterday ! :@

I went for a ride in Waterdown yesterday, and I tried to ride over a set of logs about a foot off the ground. THere are about 5 of them stuck together with a plank of wood on top. I tried to ride over them, but my front wheel went off the plank of wood, and got stuck between one of the logs.

I ended up going over the bars, stuck both of my hands out to break the fall. The bike landed directly on the left shifter/lever combo, resulting in a snapped clamp. I had both levers setup about as loose as they go, but I guess that wasn't enough for my crash yesterday.

Does anyone know what material the clamp is made out of? Is it possible to glue it back on, or maybe weld back on? Also, is it possible to get the outside piece alone?

I really don't have the money to buy another set of brakes after buying a Fox F100X last month, and I would like to get my disc brakes up and running in 2 weeks for my 24 hour race.

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I've broken two SRAM X.9 trigger shifters the same way. I had to replace them both with new shifters.
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I've broken two SRAM X.9 trigger shifters the same way. I had to replace them both with new shifters.
Ouch, that hurts. By the way, are the clamps made out of aluminum or plastic??
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looks like cheap pot metal or alluminum?

If its alluminum, you could take it to a shop that does TIG welding and have them run a bead on the outside of the break.
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you could use a cheap sodering gun and fill the gaps with it. If thats all thats crackers, hell even a hot glue gun would hold the things in place.
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you could use a cheap sodering gun and fill the gaps with it. If thats all thats crackers, hell even a hot glue gun would hold the things in place.
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Originally Posted by sparks_219
Ouch, that hurts. By the way, are the clamps made out of aluminum or plastic??
The SRAM clamps are aluminum.
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Originally Posted by PeterG1185
you could use a cheap sodering gun and fill the gaps with it. If thats all thats crackers, hell even a hot glue gun would hold the things in place.
That must be excellent carpet you're smoking.
The clamp is broken and a soldering iron won't fix a damn thing. It may look fixed but structurally it's still f'd.

The more I look at it I have to agree packaging both the shifter and brake in one proprietary unit makes excellent sense if you're Shimano and you charge a fortune for them.
For the rest of us who aren't made of money they make no sense at all
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
That must be excellent carpet you're smoking.
The clamp is broken and a soldering iron won't fix a damn thing. It may look fixed but structurally it's still f'd.

The more I look at it I have to agree packaging both the shifter and brake in one proprietary unit makes excellent sense if you're Shimano and you charge a fortune for them.
For the rest of us who aren't made of money they make no sense at all
Well, the idea works pretty well. For XC, it makes sense to have the integerated design. I personally have no regrets of buying the unit even with the broken shifter.

Kind funny that I have STIs on my mountain bike, but seperate units on my time trial bike. Got things backwards here
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You might try some JB Weld. It *might* hold you over until you can afford to buy a replacement shifter.
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The clamp is going to be aluminum and it's unlikely that a replacement clamp is available. Check with your LBS, but I expect that you are in for a new shifter.

I don't believe there are any repair methods that will handle the stress. You could try JB Weld since you have nothing to lose but I doubt it will hold. If you JB Weld the whole clamp to the bar it will probably hold and last at least until you whack it on the ground again, but you'll need to replace the bar when you get a new shifter. Depending on the cost of the handlebar, this might be worth trying.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
That must be excellent carpet you're smoking.
The clamp is broken and a soldering iron won't fix a damn thing. It may look fixed but structurally it's still f'd.

The more I look at it I have to agree packaging both the shifter and brake in one proprietary unit makes excellent sense if you're Shimano and you charge a fortune for them.
For the rest of us who aren't made of money they make no sense at all
You said that about my ODI lock ons. They're still fine Raiyn. However I also agree with you about combo shifters. They save little weight but don't save money at all. Honestly, a few grams on the bars won't affect you that much. It's the body, moreso than the bike.

Hey, sparks, go to a home depot or something and find shipbuilders epoxy. It's this really strong stuff, that my friend used on his trials frame for about 2 weeks before he got to weld the thing up. Let the stuff cure for about 24-48 hours and if you want to, reinforce the clamp by coating it with regular epoxy. It may not be pretty but it'd work!
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Sweet bike man!!

sorry dude, that really sucks.
How much do they cost?
How much weight do you save having them integrated vs. seperate?

I looks like from the design on those things that there is too much ''stuff'' hanging off the clamp to the left. It looks weak.


I love my old LX and XT shifters! I guess in the future SRAM is the only place to turn
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Originally Posted by hooligan
You said that about my ODI lock ons. They're still fine Raiyn. However I also agree with you about combo shifters. They save little weight but don't save money at all. Honestly, a few grams on the bars won't affect you that much. It's the body, moreso than the bike.

Hey, sparks, go to a home depot or something and find shipbuilders epoxy. It's this really strong stuff, that my friend used on his trials frame for about 2 weeks before he got to weld the thing up. Let the stuff cure for about 24-48 hours and if you want to, reinforce the clamp by coating it with regular epoxy. It may not be pretty but it'd work!
I wasn't trying to save money when I bought those shifters I just really like not having to take my hands off my brakes when I shift. If I were going to do it over again, I still would've bought these shifters, maybe the XTR stuff because my friend's XTRs feel a bit smoother.

My bike now weighs about 27 pounds, so I wasn't trying to save a few grams either, especially when I took my SID off for a F100X. I put on half a pound right there!

Thanks for the idea of the shipbuilders Epoxy. I think I will use it on my brake lever because it doesn't take a lot of load. I sent my saddle out for warranty, and hopefully Selle Italia will give me new rails If not, I will send the saddle to ProNet for new TI rails.

This month is a bad month!! I have broken 2 expensive parts so far
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Originally Posted by unsuspended
Sweet bike man!!

sorry dude, that really sucks.
How much do they cost?
How much weight do you save having them integrated vs. seperate?

I looks like from the design on those things that there is too much ''stuff'' hanging off the clamp to the left. It looks weak.


I love my old LX and XT shifters! I guess in the future SRAM is the only place to turn
They go for $285US at Colorado Cyclist, or $550 CDN at my LBS. Expensive, but I like them. I do agree the design make it look weak, but not many brake lever will stand up to the crash I had yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
That must be excellent carpet you're smoking.
The clamp is broken and a soldering iron won't fix a damn thing. It may look fixed but structurally it's still f'd.

The more I look at it I have to agree packaging both the shifter and brake in one proprietary unit makes excellent sense if you're Shimano and you charge a fortune for them.
For the rest of us who aren't made of money they make no sense at all
carpet huh? i dont know what you guys call it in florida, but carpet is a new one on me. Come to think of it, thats slang, i thought you were all against "AOL ese". It looks like you broke one of your own rules. Must be hard being the condesending trool on the bad ass mountain bike forums. Way to go.
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Originally Posted by PeterG1185
carpet huh? i dont know what you guys call it in florida, but carpet is a new one on me. Come to think of it, thats slang, i thought you were all against "AOL ese". It looks like you broke one of your own rules. Must be hard being the condesending trool on the bad ass mountain bike forums. Way to go.
I'm not against slang. I'm against the corruption of a language by illiterate children who feel the need to use AOL'ese and text messaging lingo rather than communicate like normal people.

Seriously though if that's the best comeback you've got that's just plain sad.

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I'll admit it was late, and i had been drinking which explains the lack of coherency in my first post. But seriously, "carpet"? WTF? Where'd you get that one from? I not gonna sit here and try and validate myself to you, but hey to each his own. If you get by on making fun of 14 year olds then go right on ahead. Whatever makes you feel happy, and this case it appears to be being a trool on a forum that very few adults vist. Way to go
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I thought there were quite a few adults on this site. Check out the thread listing ages and occupations, you will be suprised.

Now, what the heck is a trool?
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Originally Posted by PeterG1185
I'll admit it was late, and i had been drinking which explains the lack of coherency in my first post. But seriously, "carpet"? WTF? Where'd you get that one from?
I make no apologies for my comments in this thread

You proposed using a soldering iron on a broken contol clamp. That goes a bit beyond a "lack of coherency" into the realm of the dangerously stupid.

Call me a "trool" (whatever the hell that is) if you must but you've got to be smoking something if you think a soldering iron and some electrical solder is going to fix a part like a clamp.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
I make no apologies for my comments in this thread

You proposed using a soldering iron on a broken contol clamp. That goes a bit beyond a "lack of coherency" into the realm of the dangerously stupid.

Call me a "trool" (whatever the hell that is) if you must but you've got to be smoking something if you think a soldering iron and some electrical solder is going to fix a part like a clamp.
I'd like to know how you get solder to adhere to aluminum.
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