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Old 08-12-02, 05:39 PM   #1
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Best bang for the Buck - $700

Okay i am new here and new to the biking scene.

I have $700 to spend. As the title says, what is the best bang for the buck bike availible out there.

I prefer full suspension but know i will have to settle for the low end.

If i get a single suspension i can probly get a decent one.

So guys which bike should it get with the $700

Here are a few that i am looking at

Full suspension
-Mongoose 2002 Sommet Hot links MTB
-Fugi Discovery 3
-Specialized Hardrock UNO

Single suspension
-Cannondale F300
-Specialized Rockhopper A1 Comp FS
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Old 08-12-02, 05:51 PM   #2
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you will be much better served by a hardtail at that price. Don't forget the TREK. A f/s becomes a good bike after like the 1200 price range.
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Old 08-12-02, 06:15 PM   #3
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you will be much better served by a hardtail at that price. Don't forget the TREK. A f/s becomes a good bike after like the 1200 price range.
Yeah i know i was looking at a few $700 F/S bike and it shared many components with a $400 hardtail bike.

I might just go with a hardtail which is lighter than the F/S at that price range and comes with better components.

Now with that said what is the best hardtail availible for $700.

There are just to many brand, types.

Choices choices someone help me choose.

Right now i like the Specialized Rockhopper A1 Comp FS it lists for $870, but i will shop around maybe i can get it for $700
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I assume you are talking american prices. 700$ will not get you a good dually. It will be low end, heavier with extremely crappy parts. The only one I have heard good reviews about is the Jamis Dakar. However speaking with some riders of these bikes they have broken the chainstay 2x each I believe. So I am not even sure I would recommend this.

Go for a HT it will serve you better until you can buy a good dually. Being Canadian I would get a rocky mountain, Norco or Kona (I love kona). All three companies make bombproof frames. Cheers and welcome to the world of riding.
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I assume you are talking american prices. 700$ will not get you a good dually. It will be low end, heavier with extremely crappy parts. The only one I have heard good reviews about is the Jamis Dakar. However speaking with some riders of these bikes they have broken the chainstay 2x each I believe. So I am not even sure I would recommend this.

Go for a HT it will serve you better until you can buy a good dually. Being Canadian I would get a rocky mountain, Norco or Kona (I love kona). All three companies make bombproof frames. Cheers and welcome to the world of riding.
I am looking at kona website right now

What is the difference bet mountain hardtail and out of bound hardtail.

I want a bike that can be used on road and occasionally off road.

What do you all think about the Kona Stuff
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Perfect answer.......Check the August issue of Mountain bike action magazine. They just did a shootout review of bikes that were $ 700 (U.S. dollars) or less, that were highly recomended.

Results: Best: Jamis Dakar dual suspension
#2 Gary Fisher Tassajara

#3Specialized Rockhopper A1 dual suspension
#4 Trek 4900
#5 Giant Warp DS 2
#6 Kona Scab
#7 Redline Mon Cog (single speed)


Hope this helps.....


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Old 08-12-02, 06:45 PM   #7
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Perfect answer.......Check the August issue of Mountain bike action magazine. They just did a shootout review of bikes that were $ 700 (U.S. dollars) or less, that were highly recomended.

Results: Best: Jamis Dakar dual suspension
#2 Gary Fisher Tassajara

#3Specialized Rockhopper A1 FS
#4 Trek 4900
#5 Giant Warp DS 2
#6 Kona Scab
#7 Redline Mon Cog (single speed)


Hope this helps.....


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Thanks for the info.

I like the Specialized rockhopper A1 FS, it list for 650 so i think i can probly get it locally for 5ish. now i think that is a great price, i can use the rest of the money to customize it a bit
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Flintlock,

Is the article availible online or do i have to go find the magazine

thanks
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Good deal, my first real mtb was a trek 6500. Hardtails are good for begginers because it makes them learn skills they'd otherwise miss with a f/s.

Have fun, I love Specialized personally. Have fun and welcome. You will find that most mtbers are laid back and very nice.
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Good deal, my first real mtb was a trek 6500. Hardtails are good for begginers because it makes them learn skills they'd otherwise miss with a f/s.

Have fun, I love Specialized personally. Have fun and welcome. You will find that most mtbers are laid back and very nice.
Okay i would like everyone for helping me decide

I have come up with 2 bikes to choose from

-Specialized Rockhopper A1 FS (650)
-Gary Fisher Tassajara (599)

I am leaning torwards the Gary Fisher, dor under $600 it sure comes with great components.
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Old 08-12-02, 08:22 PM   #11
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Kona's Out of Bounds series have a heavier frame and different geometry to handle harder riding such as big jumps, higher drops and trails that will test the strength of your frame. The mountain series is designed more for XC trail riding and are not quite as tuff as the Out of Bounds series, much better suited for xc racing or long rides.
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I ride the kona roast (same geometry slightly beefier frame as the stuff) They are awesome. The frames are light and beefy. Amazing for dh sections of a course and decent uphill. You will also notice the seat is positioned over the rear axel (sp) making wheel drops safer and generally easier. I can speak from experience that this bike is a power house and will suit any mtb rider. Due to its geometry it requires a little different skill on steep uphills but tha is a whole different story.

Personally of the two bikes you are in the midst of selecting I would go Kona. I prefer kona over both.
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Giant Rainier This has argueably the best spec out there at the $700 price point. IMHO It's so good it's going to be my next bike.
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My fatherinlaw has a tassajara which after some riding i stepped up and bought a gary fisher big sur.THey climb really well.I just love how they ride.He loves his tassajara also.It fit me well was one of my main reasons for buying.If you have one in your area go test ride it.We dont have specialized locally so icant compare.But i vote for the g fisher.
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You still might be able to get the August issue at your local store, but I doubt it because the September issue is already out.Although you can order back issues from the web site. I personally just got a 2003 model Tassajara, and so far love it> I read a ton of reviews from magazines to everyday people praising this bike as the best value for the money, and I agree wholeheartedly.....best of luck.
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By the way, I paid $ 559 for my Tassajara, and I know that I've heard you can sometimes find it as low as $529, depending on your geographic area.....
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Perfect answer.......Check the August issue of Mountain bike action magazine. They just did a shootout review of bikes that were $ 700 (U.S. dollars) or less, that were highly recomended.

Results: Best: Jamis Dakar dual suspension
#2 Gary Fisher Tassajara

#3Specialized Rockhopper A1 FS
#4 Trek 4900
#5 Giant Warp DS 2
#6 Kona Scab
#7 Redline Mon Cog (single speed)


Hope this helps.....


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Giant Rainier This has argueably the best spec out there at the $700 price point. IMHO It's so good it's going to be my next bike.
1st quote: are those the best bikes under 700$ that are hardtails AND F/S's? or are they mixed.


and 2 the second quote: well i was concerned i got the wrong bike (giant rainer) for under 700.
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Hardtails: Redline
Kona
Trek
Specialized
Gary Fisher

Dual Suspension: Giant Warp DS 2
Jamis Dakar
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Sorry Jebus, I mistakenly called the Specialized F/s when it is really Dual suspension....
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Raiyn brings up a very good point.

The Giant Rainier list at $700 and comes with incredible components for the price.

Disk breaks also.

I might end up with the rainier.

Will be shopping this weekend, do you guys think i can get it for $600
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So the Jamis Dakar Dual Sus. would be better than a giant rainier?:confused:
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So the Jamis Dakar Dual Sus. would be better than a giant rainier?:confused:
Depends on what you are looking for.

I really don't need the dual sus. The Giant rainier has the jamis dakar beat in every other component.

Oh the the deciding factor is that the rainier has disk brakes and weighs about 4 pounds lighter.
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The Jamis is the only dual suspension bike in that range that I would consider. But the Giant f/s is not a great buy. The suspension design is old (URT), and again components.

I believe that the Specialized was a hardtail. But the best advice anyone can give is see which one fits you the best, then consider the rest.
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You mentioned that your looking at getting a Gary Fisher Tassajara for $599. The Gary Fisher site also lists a Tassajara Disc which lists for $700. It comes with Hayes mechanical discs. You might be able to find this a little less than $700 depending on where you live and which shop you go to. I would go with the Tassajara over the specialized. While I have only ridden the Tassajara Disc, from what I have heard from other people, the Gary Fisher has got the Specialized beat. The Rainier is also a great value. I have a friend who has the Rainier and is very happy with it. I have also ridden it, and wish that it came out before I made my last bike purchase. If you decide to look at the Rainier however, I would pick one up before next year's models come out. The news is that the Rainier will only come in Giant's standard blue and white(not nearly as good-looking as this years model). Someone else told me that some of the components would also be "downgraded," but it would keep the Avid discs. Good luck in your search!!

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