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Old 08-17-02, 08:42 PM   #1
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2002 Jeep Renegade Tsi

Hey what do u all think of this bike??

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...entPage=family

I need to know because I am saving up for a new good long lasting mt bike... No i do not to much of mountaining biking but i might get into it right now i ride through the woods with a Huffy Zurich and the shocks on that are crap there fake i wish i woulda noticed before i bought that huffy...

But the jeep might be my last bike for a while.
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Old 08-17-02, 09:15 PM   #2
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Well I will be honest.

It won't last and won't be any better. Save a couple of hundred more and buy a hard tail. You skills will end up better for it and the bike will be a higher quality. I dont believe you can buy a 'decent' dually for under 1000$ canadian. (even then that is pushing it). If you do get into mountain biking you will find several things about this bike (I have happened to look at them in curiousity in a store up here)

1 - HEAVY. This is the heaviest bike I have ever lifted. EVER!. IT is a beast.
2 - shocks - not too sure but if you hit anything remotely big something may break. You don't want any weakness in the suspension area.
3 - components are very low end. You will end up replacing bottom bracket and rear wheelset very quickly making what looks like a cheap bike expensive.
4 - I forget but I bet those pedals are plastic.
5 - "ē Wheel Width: 1.5 in "
Those aren't mtbike wheels. Hybrid maybe but on average 2in is the width of tires. I happen to ride 2.5's


In short this is a hybrid bike in a dually format. I hope you don't mind a rough assesment but with even mild mountain biking you will break something withint 25 hours of good riding.
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One wordRIPOFF!!!!! If you want a serious bike go to a bike shop. They will help you find a bike that will suit your needs, actually fit you, and provide support if you have questions. Try getting that on Ebay
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Old 08-18-02, 01:09 AM   #4
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It isn't a rip...230$ for a dually.
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Old 08-18-02, 04:19 PM   #6
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ok well you all can still tell me what you think of the jeep...

or does anyone have any mt bike websites?
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I thought I did. I find their bikes heavy. Heavier than almost anything. They are heavy enough for dh ONLY. But the components wouldn't hold up.

Spend a couple of extra hundred and get a decent hardtail from norco. At least than it will have a riders warranty and average parts. Ummm as for sites all I know are canadian sites for high end parts. sorry
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I used to work at a local bicycle shop that did the maintenance for Sears' Service Center when a customer brought their bike in under the Maintenance Agreement they'd bought. Jeep bikes like this one were among the junk that Sears sold, and they were just as bad as any other mass-merchant bicycle (Huffy, Magna, Pacific, etc).
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save up another $200 or so and buy a giant, (used or new) and you will be much happier in the long run. Also do not buy from a dept store, they just do not have the expertise you will find at a LBS. good luck
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really ripoff. I bought a bike like that thinking the same as u. when i started doing fairly big drops 5 1/2-6 feet it really sucked. so now im spending an extra 500 on a new bike that will hopefully last. dont make the same mistake as me. get a good 1 like a norco or sumfin. hardtails work best. cya
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I had a Jeep bike which I got at the beginning of summer. They don't last they are junk. Mine never shifted right from the start. Brought it back to get serviced and that was a joke the bike came back worse. A friend of mine had the same bike as me and had even worse problems with his. I brought the bike back to sears and went to a bike shop and got a Miele hardtail which I really like.

After buying a bike at a bike shop the experiance was great i'll never buy a bike at a department store again you just can't get the same quality info and service that a bike shop can deliver.
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Department stores suck. My wife and I went to Harrods in London one Saturday. We went to look at the bikes in the sport department. They were selling some decent road bikes, Trek, a few Kleins, but the people there knew nothing about bikes. There was one bike I could not see close up, so I asked if the drivetrain was DuraAce, Ultegra, Campy, whatever. He look at me dead blank, and said something like, "I don't actually know but it does have black gear change levers, does that help?". Oh yes! It did help - never buy from a department store. Later, I check their prices to some magazines: Harrods were about 45% more expensive for the same bikes they know nothing about.
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Old 08-24-02, 09:46 AM   #13
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check this bike out it was built by me the front wheel is being replaced
http://images.andale.com/f2/116/106/...arrensBike.JPG
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check this bike out it was built by me the front wheel is being replaced
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Yea hmmmm......that looks like a pos too. Probably even heavier than that jeep. hahahaha
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Hey Klein you seemed to be really holding back on that one
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Hey what do u all think of this bike??

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...entPage=family

I need to know because I am saving up for a new good long lasting mt bike...
A lot of non-bike companies (especially auto companies) have been marketting bikes under their name. Most are really low-end/low-quality frames and forks with mismatched low-quality components. The frames are usually of no better quality than the poorly welded ones you find in *-Mart stores. I've seen some bikes with half-finished open weld joints... scary! Some auto companies actually do team up with reputable frame manufacturers such as Ferrari and Colnago (I believe that in Europe and especially Italy there has been a long standing relationship between car companies and bike companies) but the prices on those things are astronomical compared to a bike of similar quality. The Ferrari MTB is like USD$10,000. BMW made a MTB too and it was basically a $1000 low-end bike that was equivalent to a $500 Specialized hardtail (although it did have a pretty innovative front suspension fork reminiscent of the Whyte bike). Even Porsche marketted a line of MTBs. Most of these things are marketted towards unaware yuppies who already own the brand of vehicle and want to "accessorise"... unsuspecting and uninformed individuals who believe that the label and the pricetag always equals quality. I believe there are some "higher end" Jeep bike models that are comparable to reputable downhill rigs in terms of quality but they also cost more than a similar bike. I'm always amused by this trend in fashion labelling. Ever seen one of those Jeep "boomboxes"? You think they're made by Jeep? Flimsy plastic knobs and low quality speakers... everything feels cheap. The "Grand Cherokee Limited" version has an LCD screen. Oh... and the pricetag? About twice as much as something with the same features that you could pick up at an electronics appliance store. I own a Jeep... I even rock climb with my Jeep and while there are a few nigglings, I am quite happy with it. But I would never buy a Jeep bike, luggage, stereo equipment, etc. My suggestion would be to walk to your closest LBS and tell them what kind of riding you intend to do, how much you're willing to spend and have them treat you right. You'll get a bike that will fit you, is appropriate for your riding and within your budget. And BTW, it is highly unlikely that you're going to get all that from any place that sells Jeep branded bikes.
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Sorry khuon, but I have to disagree with you on this. I have personally ridden both the bike offerings fom Porsche and BMW and found them to be worthy in both the mechanical and component ranges. Neither came with anything less than XT and the frames were made by top-notch producers in Germany (VOTEC and Univega) I would be willing to own and ride either one of these bikes. The Ferrari bike was a limited-edition (no more than 500, I could be wrong though) Colnago with a carbon-fiber frame and the best componentry money has to offer.

That's not to say that there aren't manufacturers out there who are trying to sell bikes by cashing in on names that consumers consider "tough" like Jeep.
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Porche designed bikes? Well, I saw one at a shopping mall in a yuppie-type accessory shop. On close inspection it was fitted with Acera components and centre-pull brakes. I'm not questioning the selection of components but at the price they wanted for it, I'd have expected XTR all over. The shocks were of sort of non-name brand as well. I don't recall the make, but they were not the mainstream RockShox or Zocchis.
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The FX Evolution

The FS

The Bike S

It amazes me - these companies go to great lengths to produce a serious bike, all anyone ever says is "yuppie trash".

Just because you don't know what a VOTEC GS4Air fork is, doesn't mean that it's a piece of *****.

BTW - the prices listed are in New Zealand dollars - 2.11 to one U.S. dollar.

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Just because you don't know what a VOTEC GS4Air fork is, doesn't mean that it's a piece of *****.
That is not what I implied.

I'm just suggesting that if you are being asked to pay an extreme price for a bike, then you want an outstanding spec as well. I mean we'd laugh if and be stunned if Cannondale or Santa Cruz put lower-end price range equipment on a higher-end price range bike, and then still charge more for it on top. The grass-roots consumers in the market-place and those in the know would not tolerate that, but I think the average I-must-have-the-latest-accessory car marque clientele probably do not care, and can likely say, I can afford it. Of course, Porsche and the like will exploit that if only to give the impression of exclusivity.

Does anyone remember that must-have Mercedes bike from a couple of year ago. It had no chain, but a drive-belt. I once took my very-old 1987 Mercedes diesel in for a service and I was looking at the bike and the salesman said, "Go ahead, take it for a ride around the yard." I did, and what an awful piece of sh1t it was. Car manufacturers should stick to what they are best at doing, and leave the bikes to those who know those best (imo)
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This post is going off course.

If you are a beginner mountain biker, I suggest the Giant Rincon. You can find one for about $350 USD. Good aluminium frame, decent components, and overall a good value.

You need to try and find a reputable bike shop that has a good service shop, honest sales people and you can test ride the bikes. You should test ride any bike you are going to buy.
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Yeah, I bought a Rincon last September for $330 US. I don't do alot of crazy things with it, I mainly just tool around on the local trails, and it's held up very well. You'll find that you'll have alot more confidence and'll be able to do more things with this bike than the POS.

Now that I've put my two cents in, I'd suggest you go down to the local bike shop (LBS) and ride all the ones you can afford and see what you like best.

Good luck!
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MUCH LIKE SUFFOCATING!!





Meh..... my advice is buy a better bike, for less money at your LBS or online even.
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http://www.konaworld.com/2k3/2k3_lanai.cfm


That will give you a frame to work from and upgrade parts down the road.


I love my Kona.


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Yeah, I bought a Rincon last September for $330 US. I don't do alot of crazy things with it, I mainly just tool around on the local trails, and it's held up very well. You'll find that you'll have alot more confidence and'll be able to do more things with this bike than the POS.

Now that I've put my two cents in, I'd suggest you go down to the local bike shop (LBS) and ride all the ones you can afford and see what you like best.

Good luck!
Umm He bought some X-mart POS LAST YEAR when this thread died. Why you brought this back is completely beyond me.
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