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Old 09-11-05, 03:19 PM   #1
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Manualing The Problem

Lately i have been having trouble getting my bike up high enough to do a manual correctly. Because my bike is heavy it is more difficult. Any tips on how to get my front tire up higher weight training excersises would work but i need tips.
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Old 09-11-05, 07:43 PM   #2
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manuals are one of those things you need to feel. not many people can teach you a manual. you need to practice them everyday and you will get them.

you dont need to be strong to manual good.
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Just don't force it. Just ride your bike everyday. Don't practice Manuals everyday. I found I just get mad and I can't do. You just gatta have a good feel for Manualing and your bike. If you get practice your manualing, for me, it would have taken me alot longer to even get as far as I can today.
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im prety sure my bike is heavier then yours, and its not really the bike or how strong you are, you just gotta practice, and dont give up its not something you learn overnight.
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I have found that having a hardtail makes it a little easier. Have a soft tail just adds one more variable that makes keeping the wheel up a little harder. I also found that most people do not go up high enough to find the balance point which makes doing a longer manual much harder.
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When you are first starting, remember that the faster you are going the easier but more intimidating it is. So go fast, lean way back and only lift your front wheel a little bit, the further you lean back, the less height you need on the front wheel and the more confidant you will be at speed.
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I've kept trying manuals for a good half hour each day for a week and for a while, I've given up and decided to try and get a feel for balancing by doing more and longer wheelies. Then, once I can wheelie as if I were simply riding around on two wheels, that's when I'll start trying them again.
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I've kept trying manuals for a good half hour each day for a week and for a while, I've given up and decided to try and get a feel for balancing by doing more and longer wheelies. Then, once I can wheelie as if I were simply riding around on two wheels, that's when I'll start trying them again.
Good plan.
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I find that i helps if you do a mono and then stop pedalling.
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Man, I have a hard time riding a wheelie! I finally got the manual down though. Like others are saying, it takes a lot of practice! You have to get that feel for the "sweet spot" where you are perfectly balanced. Keep a finger on your rear brake just in case. I get up into that sweet spot by putting my body forward a bit and then shifting back while pulling up. I think of it as putting my body back into the proper spot as opposed to just yanking on the bars. It will take muscle memory and time in the saddle. And be sure to steer with your knees to keep upright laterally....(stick whichever knee out some to steer in that direction.) Don't give up! It's frustrating until you can begin getting into the feeling. Then once you can do a short manual, pick a crack on the street and try to manual to it. I find that if I have a destination I'm trying to manual to I can focus better.
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whats the difference between a manual and a wheelie :S
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A wheelie you pedal up to and throughout. Manuals are all about weight transfer and balnce, no pedalling at all.
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I have found that having a hardtail makes it a little easier. Have a soft tail just adds one more variable that makes keeping the wheel up a little harder. I also found that most people do not go up high enough to find the balance point which makes doing a longer manual much harder.
Yeah, I agree. On my FS, it's hard cuase my back tire keeps bending. But to stop that I just stand up, that way when I go up, it doesn't bend so much. You can still do it on a FS, it's just a different feel.
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i can manual on my fs but not on a hardtail, probobly because thats what im used to but i guss it weird either way. the best its ever been explained to me is you get on you rear wheel and push out with you legs if your front wheel drops and suck them in if your leaning too far back.
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I've recently learned how to catwalk (all the locals use that term, "wheelie") far, and manual for about 18 feet. This is something you do really have to practice, and as stated before, you just get the feel of it and keep going.
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Dont pedal to get the front wheel up. Lift it up, if you cant do it, just practice.

Keep your finger on your rear brake, and learn to feather it appropriately.

Get a shorter stem.

The way I figured out how to manual was to practice over the handi ramps in sidewalks for driveways. Try and keep the front wheel up for the whole distance, over and over again until you can get a feel for it. Dont start right when the ramp starts, but lift the wheel before. Try to find a hill in your neighborhood that has many of them in a row. Doing this, I practiced until I could do 3 or 4 in a row, and now I can do it on flat ground. Its a really important skill to have and improves your riding in other aspects.
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Oh yeah, if you have a fs bike don't even bother learning on it. You have to have a hardtail. I just learned how to manual 6 months ago and now have it down fairly well, trying manuals to bunny-hops, manualling drops, and steering. Don't give up.

Check out this manual: www.ksfreeriders.com/videos/sampler5.wmv (right click/save target as) (The other dude trialsing is my riding buddy, heh.)
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Oh yeah, if you have a fs bike don't even bother learning on it. You have to have a hardtail. I just learned how to manual 6 months ago and now have it down fairly well, trying manuals to bunny-hops, manualling drops, and steering. Don't give up.

Check out this manual: www.ksfreeriders.com/videos/sampler5.wmv (right click/save target as) (The other dude trialsing is my riding buddy, heh.)

So you are saying it is impossible to learn on a FS...... I'd like you to say that to a couple of my mates, all learned on a dually and some of them are very very good at them.
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Oh yeah, if you have a fs bike don't even bother learning on it. You have to have a hardtail.
ummm ya i learned on a fs it may be a bit harder but far from impossible.
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I dont think this is helping very much cause im like 5,3 and the frame is 18 inches which is way too big for me problem solved
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