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Old 09-20-05, 11:50 PM   #1
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sorry, in case this might sound stupid or something

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i went to the bike store yesterday for some small stuff to buy and thought i would also take my bike along with me so the dude there can just check if everything is okay. so he is checking it out and then he says something like my bike is being used for rougher riding than it is made for and it is showing on the bike. now i could not ask him to elaborate because they speak in thai and i can barely understand it, but that much that he said has been bugging me.

i really dont do much rough riding, i mean i dont do downhills or anything. i just ride this trail nearby, which i guess is rougher than a normal cross country trail? who knows, i am just assuming that because of what he said? i have never even seen a 'proper' biking trail, i wouldnt even assume things like that exist except from what a lot of western bikers say in their posts? i just needed a dirt path to ride my bike, i found this really short but one that challenges me near my house and i dig it and ride it because of all the mud and erosion and steep but short up and down hills and rocks and roots and what not. i also am not able to do a few sections yet, especially one uphill one, and this one downhill one is steep and takes a sharp turn and scares me but i am getting better. i hope. but until yesterday i thought that was a normal cross country trail. in fact i was thinking i need to get my ass out there and find a more technical trail to learn on, or atleast see what people out there are riding, though i have no idea where to find a place like that.

so having to hear what the fellow said yesterday really threw me off. i dont get it. i have a trek 6500. what the heck kind of riding is that bike supposed to be for? i mean i just bought the bike. i ride it everyday and sure i like to do some stuff around the house too like try jump up on a 6-8" curb or sometimes i place a stack of stones/bricks and try jump over them, just some ****ty normal stuff that i am thinking people on this site would probably not consider rough at all.

i dont get it man. i mean i want to ride my bike the way i want to ride it. does anybody know the trek 6500? what kind of riding is it meant for? i spent a lot of money on this bike. they had one better bike than this, the giant xt or something like that series and it was about a hundred us dollars more than this one but i picked this even though i knew that giant was probably a better one because i could not afford anything more than 600 dollars (we dont get specialised or anything here). do you think i should go and return this bike (they will cut some money before exchanging of course) and exchange it with the giant? is that more suitable for what i am doing? is it a stronger frame? i dont get it. i dont want to spend more money. i would rather save up and change my fork and hubs and get disc brakes.

what should i do? i mean if the bike is showing signs of fatigue already then does that mean this bike is no good? i dont even know what he means by fatigue anyway. he just said that "oh you like to do rough riding eh? the bike is showing signs of it. wear and tear." or something to that effect. damn. i thought the 6500 was a decent bike. they have a few nice forks, a rock shock u turn and a rock shock SID and i want to save up for one of those by this december hopefully and buy that with some disc brakes. but if this bike/frame that i have itself is not so strong then i dont want to add more money into it. i want a good bike that can stand stuff man. something that is not going to make me have to spend on another bike in atleast another 4-5 years. or unless i have a major crash and the frame bends bad. when i asked the fellow though that hey, is the frame good/strong? he said yes. but when i asked him then what do you mean it is showing signs of rough use and wear and tear, i could not understand what he said to that. something like the bike is not made for the kind of stuff you are probably going on and well, i cannot help thinking "then what the hell is this bike made for".

anyway so i thought maybe you guys would know. we dont get too much of a variety out here where i am. i think i have a good bike, except for that fellow saying that to me. and i am not so worried about components, though it would be nice to have good stuff on the bike, but i am just worried about the frame. and anyway, i have already bought the bike. it is mine and i like it and dont want to exchange it, especially for something mariginally better. yknow? i mean i like this bike dammit. it is mine and we go out riding often, the bike and i. i like it. but if it is not so strong or some dumbass **** like that then... zzz i dont know. maybe i am just being paranoid and overreacting. i hope so.
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Old 09-21-05, 12:00 AM   #2
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So you're a ramblin' man, eh? The Trek 6500 is a xc bike. Don't huck or it will break.
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Old 09-21-05, 12:10 AM   #3
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The Trek 6500 is an excellent bike, and will be a good strong bike through whatever you put it through. I started out on a Trek 4500 and beat the hell out of it, taking it off small drops, and lots of rock gardens, roots, etc. I never had any frame or stength issues, yeah i had a few flat tires and some broken spokes but the frame is rock solid. The guy who you taked to is a dumbass, i have seen guys riding street bikes with knobby tires on some pretty gnarly trails. Ride your bike hard because Trek has a good warranty on its frames. However this goes to say, dont be foolish and take your bike off a 5 to 6 foot drop, maily it wont be too much fun for you and the bike wont like it either. I prefer Trek over Giant any day so I say you have a great bike and enjoy it. Also when you go for the disc breaks go for the Avid BB7's.
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Old 09-21-05, 12:15 AM   #4
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sorry about the ramble. i am pretty anxious. also, i was born with defects.

i dont know what a huck is. i dont even know what cross country actually refers to. i have seen pictures of a few trails online but well i cant make much out of them. some of them seem so easy, just plain jane, but the people when describing their rides on those particular paths/trails, well they make it sound so tough.

i dont know what kind of riding i am doing. i dont know what single track is or what a switchback is. all i know is that on weekends i go biking on the road to look for new dirt paths and otherwise i ride this short dirt path here that is doable but scares me in a few sections. which i am hoping continious riding will help me get over.

i have searched online for explanations of terms like crosscountry etc etc but they more or less tell me nothing more than the general idea of what the word(S) in english mean.

do you think you could help me understand a little bit about what my bike, or a general cross country bike, is capable of? i mean i dont want to do stuff that will break my bike. i dont have money to buy another one. but also i dont want to limit myself. i want to ride the way i want to. that is all. so like if somebody could explain to me about different kinds of bikes and especially about my bike then i could atleast maybe go back to the shop, see what they have and exchange my bike for it if i get the feeling my bike is not fit for what i want. or maybe somebody could tell me how to upgrade my bike to make it tougher or something??

sorry for ramble #2!
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Old 09-21-05, 12:19 AM   #5
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Your bike is fine just ride it, and dont worry. Its not weak at all.
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Old 09-21-05, 12:40 AM   #6
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ok.good. i will. thats a relief. thanks!! that fellow worried the blood out of me.
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Old 09-21-05, 07:05 AM   #7
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For the various styles of riding look here Post #16

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That mechanic just wants your money. from the sounds of it, your not doing anything a trek 6500 couldnt handle. if you wanna be sure, you could take it to ano other bike shop and ask does this frame look fine.
by the way a huck is a stunt or jump etc.
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Old 09-21-05, 07:00 PM   #9
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whats a spoke??
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Old 09-21-05, 07:14 PM   #10
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we don't have another bike shop here. the next one is in bangkok a couple of hours away by car and i dont have a car to haul it up there. though, i do want to ride my bike all the way to bangkok, somebody told me there is a slightly longer way through which i will not have to go through any highways (but i'll be on the road, not dirt paths, which is okay for me) so maybe someday after my upcoming exams i will do that.

anyway, i just wanted some confirmation from you guys here since you all seem to have a lot of know how, and i have that now so i am not worrying about the mechanic fellow and just riding. thanks!

ps- thanks for that archived post. it was fun.
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Old 09-21-05, 08:11 PM   #11
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I think the mechanic wants your business desperately. A bike may show signs of wear and tear, but signs of fatigue? Someone here please teach me how to detect fatigue by the eye! (If that's possible).

The 6500 is an awesome bike. Just keep enjoying your bike.

Bottom Line:

1. Continue riding as much as you want. You are not abusing your bike
2. Find another mechanic/LBS.

Happy riding,

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I believe that spoke is the ancient greek god of the unicycle or the precurssor to the bicycle. : )
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PS: The only way (I KNOW) to detect fatigue in a metal is by a hydrostatic test, similar to the one used in aircraft fuselages and CO2 and oxygen reservoirs.

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The 6500 is a xc bike, it's not made to do drops.
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