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    Sintesi ... Opinions ?

    I am building a bike from the ground up, and the bike dealer gave me a so called, Special Deal, on a Sintesi X-Wing frame for $600au ($300us) frame only.

    Its a yellow with blue fire paintjob, and has all the markings, but while researching on the internet, I cannot find the frame design anywhere, they are mainly blue/white, red/white, black/white etc.

    Is this a reasonable price for the frame as a basis for building one from scratch ?

    Opinions are welcome.

    Because I live in a backwater town, my frame choices are limited to this Sintesi or Mongoose frame, there isnt anywhere else that sells frames on their own.

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    I'm not exactly sure what a backwater town is, but you can always purchase online.

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    Backwater as in Cairns (Smithfield World Course 96) in Australia.

    Basicly, I dont have the cash to outright purchase a complete bike, so I am prepared to spend the extra cash building one from scratch. I know it costs alot more, but I can pick and choose exactly what I want, and buy bits as I can afford them.

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    I cant say i know much about the cairns area since i live in melbourne but shouldn't there be heaps of choices for bikes in your area since its a much more popular sport in QL and you have the world cup course!?

    my mate came from cairns and where he was they had EVERYTHING.. eg giant, specialised, craftworks, santa cruz, etc, etc, etc.

    As for that frame.... never heard of it........ but what sort of riding are you wanting to to?
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    Basicly XC, I am not into the downhill side of things at all.

    I have been trying to research Sintesi on the net, but information is very tough to come across since its not well known at all.

    I can get Scott, Giant, Cannondale, etc etc etc ...

    However, when it comes to frames alone, there isnt much up here. Everything is sold complete, and when it comes to buying frames up, they dont want to know you.

    I checked out the Sintesi, its an Italian frame hand made (hand welded) the welding seams were all neat and even, and it seems pretty clean. No nasty stickers either, its all hand painted.

    Its extremely light (1.3kg) and designed for XC so it should be OK.

    One part that is niggling me is the tubing, its Dedacciai SC 6110 which I have read somewhere as being quite brittle and easy to fracture.

    As for where I live ... Yeah, Mountainbiking is extremely popular up here, with Worlds Course has been upgraded extensively to have a Downhill, and 3 or 4 XC courses. There are too many places to go up here, you can litterally ride anywhere and find a track of some sort to have a go on.

    The actual after market gear can be found easily, you name it, and I can get it ... but single frames are impossible to find, all the shops want to sell you a bike complete, and upgrade all the parts. Hence the choice of the Sintesi ... it sounds good on paper, its a light frame, and (supposedly) the frame is worth $1700au by itself, but being old stock (2000) its being heavily discounted to get it out the door.

    Oh well, I will get it and see how it go's ... now to worry about components ... I will probably go with XTR ensemble, with Hayes brakes. Dunno about forks and other small things ... but I will work something out.

    So much to choose from, and I am a little clueless as to whats hot in the MTB scene (I am a road racer, so the hot road gear is unheard of in the MTB scene)

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    The actual after market gear can be found easily, you name it, and I can get it ... but single frames are impossible to find, all the shops want to sell you a bike complete, and upgrade all the parts. Hence the choice of the Sintesi ... it sounds good on paper, its a light frame, and (supposedly) the frame is worth $1700au by itself, but being old stock (2000) its being heavily discounted to get it out the door.
    If I think about what my bike will be worth in 2004, then that'll be proportionate to the price they are offering for a year 2000 model now. Like you imply, it's 'dead metal' taking up inventory space, but having less and less market value as time goes on. We all want the shiniest, newest, bestest we can get. It sounds like your'e looking at it from the right angle - upgrade options in the future. And that's the same attitude I have. Maybe in 2 years my Gemini will have nothing original left on it, save the disc brakes.

    From what I see and read, the favourite buzzword (at least if the marketing departments get their way) is to move accross to the 1.5 head tube. There seems to be more of this coming onto the marketplace so I don't think it is a passing fad.
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    Integrated Headset ...

    Yeah, I am seeing them alot as well, and the Sintesi doesnt have one. I admit I am a MTB newbie.

    http://www.chrisking.com/tech/int_he...explain_1.html has a good explanation of the difference between the 2.

    Basicly the article claims there is no real advantage, and in fact may be a disadvantage.

    Dunno ... I am not an engineer, and I cant find any definitive positives appart from "It has an intergrated headset" hype.

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    I've also read that 1.5 is a solution to a problem that does not exist.

    Comments anyone?
    If your bollocks ain't sore, yer ain't on yer boike!

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    Freerider, Huckster, doing 10'0" drops to flat, yeah, the 1.5 almost makes sense, but so does a triple clamp for that.

    As far as for XC, it's not necessary and not it's intended purpose.

    Integrated headset, also, not necessary. Buy a quality sealed headset and be done with it. I'm not crasy about the idea of NOT being able to reface it if it gets damaged. With a regular headset, I can pop out the bearing and put a new one in. If I want to shave 20 grams off the total weight of my bike, I'd do it somewhere more practical.

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    If I want to shave 20 grams off the total weight of my bike, I'd do it somewhere more practical.
    I can think of one place I could easily shave off 10Kg when I get on my bike?
    If your bollocks ain't sore, yer ain't on yer boike!

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    My point exactly!

    One less piece of pizza or one less order of Fish and Chips!

    L8R
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