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    Giant STP Zero Vs. Specialized P3?

    Hi all,
    This afternoon, my beloved bike got stolen. This means I'll need a new bike, and soon.

    I do all kinds of riding really, living in a city, I ride the streets alot, as well as anything else I can get onto. I also do some dirt jumping at BMX tracks etc, but also like my XC and downhilling. I'd really like to have only one bike, not a bike for each type of riding!

    I need a bike that can put up with some abuse, something that won't mind stairs, drop off's and the like. I also need to be able to ride it distances comfortably (10-15km), and hit the trails too. I'm not really looking for full suspension, I think I'll stick with hardtrail, but I'm open to suggestions. I'd like something that won't get me laughed at if i decide to do a little DH, turning up with an XC at the local dh tracks was an interesting experience.

    My price limit is about $2000 (AUD)

    Anyway, I'm looking at 2 bikes right now - the Giant STP Zero (~$2000):
    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/030...sp?model=10009

    And the Specialized P3 (~$2160):
    http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...keTab=features

    The Giant STP Zero is an '06 model, but the P3 is an '05 model.

    To me, the P3 looks a lot more burly, the frame looks a bit stronger. It's also got the 8" rotor on the front.

    The STP Zero looks nice, but the frame looks weaker than the P3. It's got Juicy 5's though, and I had those on my old bike - I liked them.

    Can anyone offer any insight into which bike I should choose? (Doesn't have to be either of these)

    Thanks alot!

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    in my opinion.. the P3 has better components compared to the STP.. but i am unsure of the fork for the P3.. for some reason i just don't trust manitou as much as RS..

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    p.3

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    Can anyone else offer an opinon as to the fork?
    I've never run a manitou fork, only ever RS.

    Is the damping in the manitou forks ok? Will this fork be ok for some light DH?

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    who don't you check out www.mtbr.com? it has many reviews

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    I have a P.1 and tried an STP this week and hated it... the geometry doesn't work for me at all. I felt like the bike was too short and the top tube was too high. In my understanding its designed to be an oldschool urban/trials bike in that the geometry is based off a 15" MTB frame like people use to use back in the day. Its definately lighter and less burly than a P.1 since it seems to be made more for urban/trials.
    commuter turned bike mechanic turned commuter (also a Velocity USA employee, but this is my personal account)

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    Funny, I'm going through the exact same debate: stp 0 vs p.3.
    First of all, if it's of any importance to you, the stp has no ISCG mounts,
    meaning you'll have to use crappy BB mounting if you want to use a chain guide.
    Second of all, I've used both RS and Manitou; I'm never going back to RS.

    That said, I still remain undecided.

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    can somebody explain iscg mounts to me?

    are chainguides made iscg and bb specific? or does one kind fit both, so you decide how to mount depending on if your bike has iscg mounts or not.

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