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Old 09-25-05, 01:56 PM   #1
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888 fork springs...

I bought my Norco A-Line earlier this summer, and I found the springs were quite soft. I would take a 2 foot jump and it would compress about 180mm out of 200. So, I recently had them changed with stiffer springs. My LBS said that should fix the problem. However, I find very little difference in the springs. Is it just my experience with a large fork like this? Could heavier oil make a difference? I need to call them and talk to 'em, I was just wondering your opinion as well. Thanks.
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how much psi are you running? and how much compression?
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A heavier oil would also help out. Even with the new Marzocchi forks i would recomend replacing the original oil.

One thing to remember, the 888's are designed for racing so the valving is designed to handle slow speed hits as well as high speed hits and be buttery smooth. They will feel very soft compared to a fork designed for big hits.

If set up correctly they can handle big hits but they will still move through their travel much easier then say a Super T, Monster T or any other fork specifically designed for the big hits.

Did you adjust the pre-load?


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Unfortunately the 888VF has NO external adjustments which make it a huge pain to adjust.
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what probobly happened is that they underfilled the oil, if you fill the oil to the max or even overfill just a bit, the pressure that builds up will resisit bottoming while still using all of your travel. also, bottoming your fork isnt a bad thing, most racers bottom their forks ~3 times a race(but lets not argure about this) whats the point of having a 200mm fork if you only use 180mm?

and do you notice any difference, if not mabey they put in the wrong springs.....
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You did not mention your weight. As 666 said, they may have put the wrong springs in.

I have not worked on a set of 888's so I am not sure what Marzocchi recomends as far as the oil level. Your manual should tell you. Check it. If it is low as it very well may be, add some.


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I weigh 170.
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then it should just be an oil height thing. i weigh 160 and thats all im gunna need to do, i think that heavier springs would be overkill....
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How do you check the oil on an 888VF? Im a newbie for this stuff. Maybe this is all my lack of experience with this fork. It seems to compress 180mm out of 200 just by jumping up and down on it. Is this normal? Basically I just need someone to tell me that I'm either cracked out of my mind, stop worrying, and ride the damn thing, or that there is something not right about the fork that I need to figure out. Thanks guys.
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Its a dh fork. They are really plush. I can usually bottom my fork by jumping up and down but on the trail it works.

If you don't have experience I would definately take it to a shop.
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As Mael said, if you dont have the experience or knowlage to do it then take it to a shop. It should not cost very much and you should be able to watch them as they do it. It is some what simple but you should have some one show you how the first time. After that if you want to add, remove or change the oil you will be able to.

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Its a dh fork. They are really plush. I can usually bottom my fork by jumping up and down but on the trail it works.
Indeed, using almost all the travel on a two foot drop is not automatically a problem. If it's not bottoming on the biggest drops you do I don't see the problem. Surely you want the fork to absorb as much of any hit as possible.
If the fork performs fine but you are just concerned with what happens when you push it in the car park I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I'd also think about swapping back to the stock forks, someone of average weight shouldn't really need heavy springs.

Also shops that know about this sort of stuff can be pretty rare, most have more expertise in road and xc. Marzocchi forks are very tuneable just by altering the oil height. IMO the first thing they should have done is checked and possible increased the oil height before changing the springs. If the first thing they did was swap an average weight person onto heavy springs chances are they don't have a lot of experience in this area.
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Im confused. I explained the the guy at the shop earlier this summer. He told me that oil wouldn't make that much of a difference. And springs would be the way to go. I told him that off a 2 footer, my fork would compress like mad. He said that it sounds like I needed stiffer springs. Springs are added. I dont feel much of a difference. But whatever. Must be Im not used to a fork of this degree. Im just going to ride it. I'll start worrying if it bottoms out. Thanks for your help everyone. And I plan on doing more than 2 footers. That was just the time I noticed how plush it was. I also read that after 180mm it'll take a LOT to bottom out the fork. Is this correct?
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Sounds like your shop guy doesn't know much about forks. Heavier oil or more oil will make the fork 'stiffer' and change the progressiveness of the fork. HEavier springs will help also but at 170 stock springs should be fine. Marz is notorious for not putting in enough oil. The shop tech should at least look at the oil level.

If also sounds like you have the wrong fork for how you ride. marz forks are plush. Its their purpose, goal and why people love them. Sounds like you would prefer the way the manitou slider would ride. Much more linear and stiff throughout the travel.

Yes, progressive forks are soft on top and get stiff throughout the travel. Thats an ideal situation for a dh fork.
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Old 10-02-05, 09:03 PM   #15
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I see. Well, I went somewhat urban riding today. Took a 7 stair set, maybe equal to a 4 foot drop. Also took a decent dirt jump. I enjoyed my fork today. Perfect, not too stiff, nor soft. Could've actually used softer springs for today. But oh well. I plan on going bigger. Later guys.
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