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    Can anyone help me?
    I currently ride a Kona Hardtail with Z5's but now want (need) to upgrade to a Duallie.
    The 2001 Kona duallie's seem a little expensive for what you get, on the other hand the Cannondale Jekyll 600/700 seems like a gr8 bike.
    The only doenside is the negative response people have given to the Headshock Super Fatty, reliabilty, dampening, repair costs.
    This over the Rock Shox SID XC that would be on a Moko Moko.
    Can anyone help me with this expensive decison from experience that you may have had?
    Appreciated muchly.

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    how much are you willing to spend?

    if you dont mind the extra expense, then go for an aeon isis. they are by far THE best FS bikes you can buy. they are like a cat goin uphill, just awesome climbing yet they handle DH fantastically! its just an awesome design....and woudnt you know it, the frame has a lifetime warranty!

    anyways, if you want other opinions on this check out the reviews at mtbr: http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Bike_ful...ct_19254.shtml

    4.98 outta 5 with 53 reviewers....how can ya argue with that?
    Last edited by biztyke; 04-07-01 at 01:19 AM.

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    Thanks for the info Biztyke!
    I've checked out the ISIS and yes looks good, will have to find a dealer that has some so I can demo.
    Being in Australia it really limits the choices we have, as opposed to fortunate U.S riders.

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    I've always been a big fan of Kona Bikes, I like their attitude and especially the way their bike ride. They just feel right. However, like you I've never purchased one due to the apparent higher price for a comparably equipped bike. I haven't ridden their new models, but a friend just bought a King Kikapu (sp?). He loves his, he's swapped out a lot of parts already, so I can't respond to how it was stock. But it rides well and feels lighter than it actally is.

    I can comment on the Jeykll's. I work at a shop that is a C'Dale dealer. You can get a great deal right now on some of last year's bikes. We just sold a 1000sl for $1400.00 that's cheaper than what we paid for a 600 we have had in stock for about 8 months. These bikes ride great!! The adjustable head tube angle is a great feature for those who like to fine tune their ride. As for the fork, you'll either hate it or love, usually no in between. It is stiff it won't flex at all going into a turn hard. But, you've got to accept the limited travel only 80 mm. This goes against the current long travel trend. This is why the Lefty was invented. I haven't ridden one of the new carbon Leftys, but I'm riding a 2000 model on my F2000 and I love it! It's a confidence builder. The 100 mm of travel is smooth and you can pump up the air chamber as stiff as you want. I run 200psi in mine. I feel that if you're looking for a good all around bike, you're not seriously into racing and just want to have fun, go with the Jeykll 700 it is relatively inexpensive, it has the longer travel Lefty and is well built and comes with a decent component package. Like I said, see if your dealer can get you a deal on a closeout model from last year. The 2002 will be out soon, so C'Dale is getting rid of the 2001's.
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    The Jeykll 700 is just over the $3000 mark but only a few left when I bought mine at Fraser Cycles at Taren Point in New South Wale, Australia.
    I don't know where you are in the Big OZ, but if your local then checkout info@fraserscycles.com.au the www is fraserscycles.com.au i think.

    This is a good shop and I have been going there for years after word of mouth from many.

    There is a Demo bike there with the Left also, that is what sold me my bike,

    It climbs great, I have also a Specialized FSC comp and it beat it hands down which is a great bike but if you have a prob, then you have a big big problem because of the importer into Australia.

    I was looking at the GT , and Kona but settled for the US handsmade Cannondale,

    have a beer and decide

    Sean

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    I love my Jekyll.. the only thing I dislike is the lower end parts spec, and the Headshok's lack of travel. I love how smooth my Fatty fork is, but it simply doesn't have enough travel to compliment the rear end. The front bottoms out too easily for my tastes, but other than that I've been extremely pleased with the bike. It climbs pretty smoothly when set up right, and takes good sized hits with ease. I bought a 2001 closeout model for like 1100 bucks, and promptly put discs on it. The suspension is so plush that I found myself bombing down steep rocky hills and getting me into situations the V-brakes couldn't handle
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    Cannondale Jekyll 500 with Avid Mechs and Sun DS2 rims with XT disc hubs.

    Cannondale F900 with SRAM XO shifters/derailler, Mavic X3.1 tubeless wheels, Avid Mechs, Race Face Next LP cranks, Time ATAC pedals, SRAM levers.

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    The big lbs is dropping cannondales and most 03's are on sale,cheap.They are in a hurry to rid themselfs of them.
    Touch every 3rd person and you'll find an idiot.

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    KONA

    From the riders I know, the Kona is the prefered bike between those to companies. I have ridden a Kona for 6 years and they have always held up to hard riding. Their bikes, even the lower end ones, come with decent components and you do not have to worry about the probs associated with the headshock. Another thing to consider is the fact that C'dale is going through some problems right now and I would wait until they get sorted out.

    Slainte

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    Kona
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    Kona, never had a problem with any of mine.

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    Just curious...why was this thread revived...its 2.5 years old. If the guy doesn't have a bike he will never get one

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    The Kona has got good spec for money but don't forget where its made thats why its cheaper.
    But I feel the frame design is top heavy,
    They are both great bikes but everyone will like one better.
    Does Kona have front and rear lockout? No
    Does Connodale have multi spec Yes
    But is all Deore or high, it's all supposed to be good stuff.

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    Hey Ferret!

    Howd you go with the bike selection?

    Just incase not made yet.

    Here's a few more point for you.

    First Cannondale

    Front lockout that is great for any road riding stand up and no bopping up and down.
    Handle bar lock out available for a cheap price this is priceless and is GREAT for many climbs make it possible to ride with guys on hardtails and not get left behind on smooth or slightly ruff climbs.
    Air instead of spring on the rear means a more solid ride
    The same with the Headshock a more solid ride compared to Oil.
    The Sid in the Kona no doupt will be the same will only air?
    Risers are needed and the flat bars chuck like mist bikes.
    With the 71 Deg set for headangle is great for XC.

    The Kona has the Sids, if you are light wiegh like 60kgs then these shocks are unreal and better than the Fatty.

    But if you are 80kg+ then you will break them no doubt.

    I have broken a set of Rock Shox with Oil Dampening, Springs and Elastomer, with a Hydrolic Cartridge and Broke them on rebound.

    Come down to the scales. So step on small/big fella.

    They are both great bike. I much rather the Cannondale but only affordable just on run out prices. Normal RRP no way.

    p.s if you are in the Royal National Park area there is now restricted riding with signs up. Be carefull as they Park Rangers hid in the bush and are now booking people.

    Or Parks may have the same game...


    :thumbup: :thumbup:

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    p.s the Cannondale is only expanding to Europe bike frames still made in US then shipped to Europe and assemble so great quanities can be shipped.

    I have a Complete XT Spec Specialised Bike it is a great bike luv it. But had a few small problems. Biggest problem is the Australia Importer, Shepard Industries. So there bikes may be worth looking at also?

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    Originally posted by dirtbikedude
    KONA

    From the riders I know, the Kona is the prefered bike between those to companies. I have ridden a Kona for 6 years and they have always held up to hard riding. Their bikes, even the lower end ones, come with decent components and you do not have to worry about the probs associated with the headshock. Another thing to consider is the fact that C'dale is going through some problems right now and I would wait until they get sorted out.

    Slainte
    No need for me to say more but my vote 110% goes in favour of kona.

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    Nasho please check the original date of post. BEFORE answering a "Which bike" or similar thread. This one was dead and gone for 2.5 years and is irrelevant now. I'm posting this here for the other newbies as well.

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