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    Stop me before I upgrade again

    Back in 2002 I bought a nice little Gary Fisher Mamba so I could ride the Katy (rails to trails) State Park trail with my new love. It wasn't long before I started finding bumps in the trail and concrete parking lot guards to run over, figured that shock had to have a purpose. Then I discovered a network of trails at Rock Bridge State Park and even closer to home. I bought a new seat, then a Yakima rack, then two more Fishers so my boys could ride, then another rail for the Yak, then things got serious. I scored clipless pedals for the Mamba and shoes for me, a Manitou Black Super Air fork (cost more than the bike), disc-ready front wheel, which let me move into the harder stuff, an Avid Juicy 7 disc brake (only $10 more than the Juicy 5 at Pricepoint) and a set of Panaracer Fires with yellow sidewalls to match the yellow and black bike. Did I mention the helmet (also yellow), the Topeak bag and pump, and the trigger shifter to replace the combo unit that wouldn't work when I added the Juicy? Plus WTB grips. All that's left to replace is the drive train and the frame -- will someone please stop me before I upgrade again? Am I nuts??? But this has been a fun bike and it's so heavy I can't seem to tear it up so I guess it's all been worth it.

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    sounds like ur perfectly sane and well on ur way to emptying ur bank account. right on!

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    I just priced a whole new drivetrain today. SRAM and Truvativ cranks, chain rings, cassette, FR & RD, trigger shifters, chain, etc. Came out to about $485 not including tools (crank puller, bb tools, whatever) and S&H. My bike cost a lot less than that and is 15 years old. Plus I'm thinking of powdercoating it black. So why shouldn't I just buy a new bike? I don't know...
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    big jim mac, are you in the St. Louis area? I'm over in Waterloo, Illinois. Katy trails are nice but I don't know of any more mb oriented trails around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clifford_bgrddg
    sounds like ur perfectly sane and well on ur way to emptying ur bank account. right on!
    AMEN TO THAT MY HOLY BROTHER!!!
    I am only 15 and have spent far too much on my bike already. Has become more expensive than a year of paintball. My dad asked me why I didn't just save up and buy the perfect bike, instead of upgrading and spending more money. I told him that this way I could make it just how I wanted. Plus, you cant really get a 29er the way that I want mine. Just doesn't happen. They dont make em. There is nothing wrong with upgrading. Sure, it costs more in the long run, but it is way more fun. Makes it seem like every ride there is something new, even if it is the same old trail. Eventually you will probably want to upgrade the frame. Go for it. You can get a super nice hardtail for about 700 new for frame only, or you could get a FS frame with shock for more. Your fork is nice enough to get a FS bike. Plus it will be much nicer as you get older. Then once you get a new frame, it will be time to upgrade to those pedals that you have always wanted, hydros, new lighter stronger fork, etc.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyroguy_3
    big jim mac, are you in the St. Louis area? I'm over in Waterloo, Illinois. Katy trails are nice but I don't know of any more mb oriented trails around.
    Jefferson City actually (central Missouri) but I spend a lot of time in the East central Missouir area. I have ridden most of the trails in Missouri. If you're looking for St. Louis area trails try Castlewood State Park, Chubb Trail, Greensfelder, or Klondike, Watson in St. Charles. Here's a link to Missouri trails -- other states on this site too. http://www.dirtworld.com/trails/Miss...Biketrails.asp

    If you want real epic stuff try Berryman Trail or Council Bluff Lake. I bet Illinois has better stuff though in the Shawnee National Forest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harris
    AMEN TO THAT MY HOLY BROTHER!!!
    I am only 15 and have spent far too much on my bike already. Has become more expensive than a year of paintball. My dad asked me why I didn't just save up and buy the perfect bike, instead of upgrading and spending more money. I told him that this way I could make it just how I wanted. Plus, you cant really get a 29er the way that I want mine. Just doesn't happen. They dont make em. There is nothing wrong with upgrading. Sure, it costs more in the long run, but it is way more fun. Makes it seem like every ride there is something new, even if it is the same old trail. Eventually you will probably want to upgrade the frame. Go for it. You can get a super nice hardtail for about 700 new for frame only, or you could get a FS frame with shock for more. Your fork is nice enough to get a FS bike. Plus it will be much nicer as you get older. Then once you get a new frame, it will be time to upgrade to those pedals that you have always wanted, hydros, new lighter stronger fork, etc.....

    It will never end. You may as well enjoi it while it lasts.

    harris
    My plan is to buy either two Specialized Stumpjumper FS bikes or one Santa Cruz Nomad and keep the Fisher in case my sons don't let me have the FS. But I might turn it into a Sugar, there's a frame at the LBS that's got a lot of dust on it. I think the bike thing is cheaper than paintball ,my sons are into that and we drop $100 everytime they play. The bike only requires a bottle of gatorade each. We are trying to figure out how to combine the sports, maybe a full suspension, downhill two-wheel paintball tank with grenade launcher and disc brakes?

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    At least biking is cheap compared to some other hobbies out there. I came from a much more expensive one and when talk to my friends still into it, I shake my head when I think about how much they're still spending.

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    Go for it! I'm always thinking of upgrades. It's worth it if: a) it increased your riding pleasure, and b) if it encourages more riding (healthier lifestyle), and c) it's fun, I love working on my bikes-showing them love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by never
    At least biking is cheap compared to some other hobbies out there. I came from a much more expensive one and when talk to my friends still into it, I shake my head when I think about how much they're still spending.
    Sounds like my previous hobbies, was yours motorsport related?
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    You bet, I was into drag racing and biking played a smaller role in my life. My friends and I built small tire (around 10" wide) street legal cars....like Mustangs, Camaros, Malibus, etc. Before I moved, most of us were running 10-8s in the 1/4 mile but I talked to a some of them lately and a few of the guys have gone mid-high 7s.

    So having a few thousand dollars worth of bikes is nothing when I had an engine that was worth between $20-30,000. I don't miss the car stuff because I like being debt free (well, other than a mortgage). Plus I talked to one of my friends last week who had been building his car for the past 3 years. He got 8 passes in this fall before his engine blew apart.

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    I hear you. I used to rally and kart. Even as a co-driver a weekend event cost me about $600 CAD and I did several events a year. Driving cost much more (not the same figures you were quoting, but high enough). What's strange is that I am hemming and hawing about dropping $1700 USD on a bike frame today. Go figure.
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    I'm sorry, was there a problem here?
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    sounds like money well spent. Especially if you get to spend riding time with your sons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    But I might turn it into a Sugar, there's a frame at the LBS that's got a lot of dust on it.
    I think that that is a great idea. Sugars are pretty nice XC bikes, but they wont hold up to jumping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    I think the bike thing is cheaper than paintball ,my sons are into that and we drop $100 everytime they play.
    How do you manage to spend that much? I fill my 9oz every time I play, and then I also use about 250 rounds. Usually Marbalizers or Worrgames Worrpaint. Averages out to about 10$ per day of play. That doesn't include wear and tear on my ***, but ohh well.

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    What? This is an expensive hobby / sport? It's addictive? I would have never guessed. I have only bought about $1200 in upgrades that I didn't really need the last couple of weeks. I also spend $38 a month for gym membership to make me a better rider and $150 a month for my cycling coach.

    Hmmm, maybe this stuff is kind of expensive. It is worth every penny though.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harris
    I think that that is a great idea. Sugars are pretty nice XC bikes, but they wont hold up to jumping.


    How do you manage to spend that much? I fill my 9oz every time I play, and then I also use about 250 rounds. Usually Marbalizers or Worrgames Worrpaint. Averages out to about 10$ per day of play. That doesn't include wear and tear on my ***, but ohh well.

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    Local paintball field charges $65 a case for paint (it glows in the dark and they have a killer cosmic indoor area) plus I end up paying for two or three rentals, one for me and a couple for the guns that quit working plus the inevitable bottles of Gatorade etc. $$$ and so forth. Not hard at all to drop $100 but like the ride we had the other night, watching the sun set on the lake, well worth it. Where else can a kid shoot his dad or drop him off a hill and not get sent to prison?

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    sounds like great upgrades to me so thats money well spent

    I used to be into racing cars, had over 15k in upgraded parts in my 2k eclipse. Then last yr on my B-day, my car was stolen and stripped. SOOOOO rather then putting all that $$ into something to have some puck ass kid who can't work for his own $hit steal something from me, I dusted off the MTB and road the crap outa it. Raced SuperD this past season on this $300 POS rattle box that had 85mm Suntour SR front fork and weighed 33lbs and LOVED every second of it (placed 6th overall out of 21 for the yr). Rather then upgrading my 01' Fuji thrill, I just finished building up a Giant VT2 with 5 & 5 for suspension.
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