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Old 10-01-02, 01:31 PM   #1
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Looking for valid opinions

I'm looking for a new XC bike and I came across this

I'm sure I'll be ditching the riser bar (hate the beach cruiser posture) and I KNOW I'll be replacing the saddle. The Hayes Disks is one spot where I'm questioning myself. Do I want to trade them for the Avid Mechs (cheaper & better reviews) or, keep 'em? Another area of concern is the fact that I'm a pretty big guy 6'4" 240 lbs and the reviews of the Manitou Six Super aren't promising for a Clydesdale like myself Review
Do any of you have any input on this? I'm trying to keep the whole thing at about $800 and similar specs (splined bb is a must). I'm not stuck on the Jamis but I've liked what I've seen from them so far. That fork just scares me.
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You are the same size as me. I would have similar concerns (even though I prefer the riser bars as it works well with my riding style, I am not a beach cruise )

1 - fork - see about getting it changed for a Marzocchi aggro xc series. I have the lowest end EXR and it has been fine for me in this stage of learning. With the stiffer springs and heavier oild it was great. It is also a cheap priced fork

2 - BB - splined isn't enough I destoryed my truvative within two weeks. Make sure you get a raceface bb.

3 - brake - Switch before you buy. Hayes suck. The feel great for a month or so than suck. I have not been able to reset the power back to its original feel since I got it. Avids I don't hear bad things about.
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Get your bike, I'll get mine and we'll meet at Alafia or Carter Road!

I'm down in Sarasota and looking for a new bike as well.

I'm 225-230 lbs and 6'0".

Well be the BFGOB's.

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BTW, the Jamis is a nice decent bike. I also prefer the riser bar (even on a hardtail). For burly guys, check out Kona's. They build them as tanks. Also, I just sold my Specialized P.3, and I've noticed a lot on ebay and mtbr. That's a big burly bike as well. It's not XC, but then again you are 200 +.

Have you looked into the used market? You can get a lot for $800.
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Old 10-01-02, 03:37 PM   #4
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Get your bike, I'll get mine and we'll meet at Alafia or Carter Road!

I'm down in Sarasota and looking for a new bike as well.

I'm 225-230 lbs and 6'0".

Well be the BFGOB's.

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BTW, the Jamis is a nice decent bike. I also prefer the riser bar (even on a hardtail). For burly guys, check out Kona's. They build them as tanks. Also, I just sold my Specialized P.3, and I've noticed a lot on ebay and mtbr. That's a big burly bike as well. It's not XC, but then again you are 200 +.

Have you looked into the used market? You can get a lot for $800.
Sounds like a plan. I've considered Kona's but that was when I was looking a double squishers I suppose I could look at the P3 and Kona .com only one prob.. no way to judge prices.Btw BFGOB's??? [EDIT] Just looked at Kona's offerings they just don't have the specs I want alot of them are using Tien Hsin square taper bottom brackets and the out-of-bounds hardtails didn't blow my skirt up either. I suppose the double squishys get the good stuff. [/EDIT]
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Well I would give a vote of toughness to the roast / chute. Its my ride and I love it. Being a big clydesdale I did some immediate work to the rear wheelset but it is a very worthy bike.

Than again it isn't great for xc. Its geometry is too far sloped to make a good xc bike. On extreme climbs it has a tendency to tip backwards ...
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I can't speak for the other Hayes models, but, the mechanically actuated hydraulics I have on my ride are great! They are over three years old now and still work fine. I have replaced the pads twice, and, as it came from the factory, the brakes were installed improperly. After I realigned them and centered them they were and are fine. I rotate this bike with a Cannondale Super V to keep the miles down to a degree.

I have heard great things about the Avid mechs and if you can save a few bucks while still getting great performance I say go for it! I just ride the hell out of what I have and try to keep upgrade fever to a minimum.
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Old 10-01-02, 09:45 PM   #7
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Told ya I wasn't stuck on the Jamis check this out:
Available Sizes: MENS: 15, 16.5, 18, 19.5, 21
Available Colors: BLUE
Frame: 7005 ALLOY A-FRAME, W/ OVERSIZED GUSSETS, SQUARED CHAINSTAYS, REPLACEABLE DROPOUT, INTERNATIONAL DISK MOUNT
Fork: MARZOCCHI EXC COIL/OPEN BATH, 4" TRAVEL, 1 1/8" THREADLESS
Crankset: TRUVATIV HUSSEFELT
Chainrings: 44/32/22T
Chain: KMC HG-72
Bottom Bracket: TRUVATIV ISIS SPLINED DH
Pedals: ALLOY ONE PIECE PLATFORM
Front Derailleur: SHIMANO DEORE
Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO DEORE LX
Shifters: SHIMANO DEORE RAPID FIRE, 27 SPEED
Freewheel: SUN RACE CASSETTE, 11-32T, 9 SPEED
Tires: MAXXIS HARD DRIVE 26X2.1 , MAXXIS HARD DRIVE 26X2.1
Front Hub: FORMULA DISC, ALLOY, QR, BLACK
Rear Hub: FORMULA DISC, ALLOY, QR, BLACK
Rims: SUN HILL ROD, BLACK W/ EYELETS, 32H
Spokes: 14G STAINLESS
Nipples:
Front Brake: HAYES HMX-1 MECHANICAL DISK BRAKE
Rear Brake: HAYES HMX-1 MECHANICAL DISK BRAKE
Brake Levers: AVID SPEED DIAL 5
Handlebar: 1 1/2" RISE, SAND-BLAST BLACK ALLOY
Stem: 5 DEGREE RISE, ALLOY THREADLESS
Grips: IRON HORSE
Headset: WTB 1 1/8" THREADLESS W/ ORANGE STRIPE
Saddle: KOSKI CONTOUR FR
Seat Post: ALLOY MICRO ADJUST
Seatpin: ALLOY W/ ALLEN BOLT

The reviews seem to be fairly positive and it has the Marzocchi EXC fork that was recommended. I still want to put the Avid Mechs on it. any comments?
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Old 10-01-02, 09:58 PM   #8
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Most of the specs look pretty good, but I'm not a fan of Formula hubs. I've got them on my NRS 2 and trashed the rear one in one year of riding. Giant did warranty it though.
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No comments on the hubs. No experience with them. My old shop used to carry ironhorse and they seems good. Otherwise I never hear anything about them

I hear nothing but bad about the hayes mechs and I have nothing but bad to say about them. They are useless, v-brakes are better.

Better bike than the jamis it seems, and the fork is good to start with. I have one and am just now running into problems with it (I am too heavy and my riding is too extreme for a cheap xc fork)
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BFGOB my buddies and I came up with this acronymn to describe us. Big Fat Guys on Bikes!

You gotta have a sense of humor when you're 33 years young and 230 lbs and participating in a sport for 18 year olds who weight 150 lbs soaking wet!

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Are those 32 spoke wheels build for big guys? For a few extra gramms you could be riding 36 spokes.
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Could be a pricey upgrade to start with. Most stock bikes don't come with 36 spoke option. But definately a future upgrafde consideration depending on the riding you are doing.
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