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Old 11-25-05, 12:13 AM   #1
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the working gear (cassette+chain) on my blur after 6 months is starting to look a little tired. rather than replace just the shimano XT chain and cassette i'm considering moving to sram. cables are replaced every month or two. hubs are onyx, truvativ cranks, xt derailleur and shifters. what components do i have to change to go to sram. i'm not adverse to using XT it's just i've ridden shimano for 2 years now and looking to test the competition. help appreciated.

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rear derailleur and shifters. i reccommend X9 for a fair comparison.
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Old 11-25-05, 12:50 AM   #3
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rear derailleur and shifters. i reccommend X9 for a fair comparison.
ur saying i should replace cassette, chain, shifters and derailleur with x9?
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Old 11-25-05, 01:00 AM   #4
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No, just the rear derailleur and shifters with X.9.
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Mate, get the SRAM X9, you'll never look back. You need the levers and a rear derailleur. You'll want to replace the chain and cassette too, if they're that worn. You won't be disappointed.
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One place you do not want to use SRAM is the front derailleur. That is, unless SRAM has already done the "update" to it, which allows it to be used with full suspension bikes. The SRAM was not working well with full susp., something about the width or something-remember reading and hearing about it. The newest SRAM front der. are supposed to have been modified to solve that problem, but you may want to stay with Shimano for the front der.
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Instead of simply replacing the chain & cassette, you will cough up 100's of dollars for a new rear derailer and shifters in addition to your chain & cassette just to "try" it? Maybe I can save you some time / money, I've know people that have done this, they hated it or broke it and have returned to Shimano.

Hands down, Shimano makes the best / toughest mountain bike group out there. Oh well, its your money and its your bike so its your choice. Cheers!

Test rode the Sram X0 group....vs the XT/XTR

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and make sure you have a shop set up that sram front der. it's a *****.
I actually found my SRAM X-Gen front derailleur extremely easy to setup. At least, compared to other front derailleurs I've had to tweak before. That said, my front derailleur is staying on my curren bike, I'll buy another one for my next frame rather than needlessly do it again .

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One place you do not want to use SRAM is the front derailleur. That is, unless SRAM has already done the "update" to it, which allows it to be used with full suspension bikes. The SRAM was not working well with full susp., something about the width or something-remember reading and hearing about it. The newest SRAM front der. are supposed to have been modified to solve that problem, but you may want to stay with Shimano for the front der.
The SRAM X-Gen front derailleur doesn't work well on some frames because its clamp is above the derailleur mechanism (pretty high up the seat tube). Shimano front derailleurs clamp much lower, making them an easier fit on frames with interrupted or otherwise oddly shaped seat tubes. It's easy and not uncommon to use SRAM shifters with a Shimano front derailleur, it works fine.

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Instead of simply replacing the chain & cassette, you will cough up 100's of dollars for a new rear derailer and shifters in addition to your chain & cassette just to "try" it? Maybe I can save you some time / money, I've know people that have done this, they hated it or broke it and have returned to Shimano.
I built my current bike with no Shimano components on purpose mostly just to "'try' it" . I've been very happy so far. Still saving up for my dream frame, but that's another matter. But, let's not get into this whole thing: it's personal experience and opinion and it's your money, you can only decide for yourself.
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We've got SRAM X9 on our tandem, with an XTR front derailleur. Flawless shifting, even with a super long cable.
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the working gear (cassette+chain) on my blur after 6 months is starting to look a little tired. rather than replace just the shimano XT chain and cassette i'm considering moving to sram. cables are replaced every month or two. hubs are onyx, truvativ cranks, xt derailleur and shifters. what components do i have to change to go to sram. i'm not adverse to using XT it's just i've ridden shimano for 2 years now and looking to test the competition. help appreciated.

Hmmm, seems like an unnecessary upgrade to me...

You're going to replace your componentry after 6 months/1 chain replacement of riding?

Seems wasteful

You shouldn't even have to replace your cassette after 6 months of riding should you?
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It's only money.
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and use a sram casette

i disagree with that. i've seen them actually break teeth. that said, i haven't had any problems so far with mine. but my next cassette will probably be an XT. as for chains, i like my KMC X-9 chain, strong and smooth.
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thank you all for your feedback
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I ride X9 rear derailler and XO shifters. So much better than Shimano! I run a SRAM cassette too, and a SRAM chain. It all works together VERY well, and I've run 4 SRAM cassettes now with no broken teeth or anything as suggested above. I say run it.
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I love sram cassettes! They work really well
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I think they're a better value than Shimano cassettes. Look at what a top of the line SRAM cassette will run you versus a Shimano XTR
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XTR has titanium cogs at the big end...
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XTR has titanium cogs at the big end...
Which the average jabrone totally needs to fart around with his buddies
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Which the average jabrone totally needs to fart around with his buddies
Why bring the word "Need" into the discussion? I don't need any of the bikes or gear I have.

There are two key equations: want>afford and want=afford

It's all about priorities, and which category you fall into.
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I would look into the Sram x7, its a better deal in my opinion. I am pretty certain the difference between the 9 and 7 is marginal, and from pricepoint you can get a derailleur+shifter combo for a 90 i think
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Why bring the word "Need" into the discussion? I don't need any of the bikes or gear I have.

There are two key equations: want>afford and want=afford

It's all about priorities, and which category you fall into.
Extra beer money is always a good thing.
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And you'll have extra beer money through the savings you get when you don't have to replace your casette as frequently...

That's been my experience with XTR casettes over the years.
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And you'll have extra beer money through the savings you get when you don't have to replace your casette as frequently...

That's been my experience with XTR casettes over the years.
Let's see now $160 for an XTR cassette that might last perhaps twice as long as a $35 SRAM? Yeah that's GREAT value.

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Let's see now $160 for an XTR cassette that might last perhaps twice as long as a $35 SRAM? Yeah that's GREAT value.

Ouch, the way I see it 160 > 35*2. I don't know about you guys but for me there'd be no way in hell I'd pay that much just for a cassette which wears away and needs replacing.
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Ouch, the way I see it 160 > 35*2. I don't know about you guys but for me there'd be no way in hell I'd pay that much just for a cassette which wears away and needs replacing.
There are people who pay more.
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