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Old 11-29-05, 12:40 PM   #1
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Do any of you like Grip shifting??

doesn't seem like people care too much for Grip Shifts...was this sort of a fad of the late 90's?

i like them!
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Old 11-29-05, 12:55 PM   #2
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Old 11-29-05, 01:04 PM   #3
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I don't like them either.
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Old 11-29-05, 01:05 PM   #4
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It's a personal thing, however those who prefer them must be a small minority or SRAM would not have developed pod shifters to compete with Shimano. I understand the SRAM thumb shifter pods are superior to Shimao XTR (plus we don't all like brake levers to do the shifting) and in my area get rave reviews.

The cheap-line of grip-shifts are lighter and work better than the cheap line of Shimano which is really clunky. I ran ito that when I bought "kids" bikes for the grand children. I had to throw away the Shimano stuff on the G son's bike, but I kept the grip-shifts on the G daughter's; they were bottom of the line, but worked very well.

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Old 11-29-05, 01:05 PM   #5
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My brother still swears by grip shifts as do a lot of other riders that I know. I have tried them out but never more than a few minutes at a time. I almost bought some X.0 grip shifters earlier this year but ended up sticking with X.9 triggers.

They are kind of like Shimano's integrated shifters, people either love them or they hate them.
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I like grip shifters. easy, effective and reliable. if you compare low cost gripshifter to low cost trigger shifters, gripshifters are far better. I currently use gripshifters on a 24speed Iguana. tried shimanos EF series to Alivio, does not really do it for me. but Deore up the trigger shifters are pretty effective. Like SRAM highend over Shimano highend though.
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Back in '95 when I bought my first mountain bike, I compared bikes with Grip Shift shifters and Shimano shifters. The bike that felt better to me ridewise was equipped with Shimano shifters but I preferred the Grip Shifts that were on the other bike. I bought the bike I liked better and the shop swapped out the Shimanos for a set of X-rays with no hassle at all.

When the X-rays broke a few years later I replaced them with a set of Grip Shift Attack shifters that still work trouble free.

I bought a new bike this summer that came equipped with Shimano RF shifters and I do like them. I don't think that they are necessarily better than the Grip Shifts, just different, in my opinion. I also ride or have owned road bikes with Shimano STI and Campy Ergo and pretty much feel the same way. Both systems work well and it is just a personal preference thing,
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Old 11-29-05, 01:42 PM   #8
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I always hated grip shifters, but hadn't tried them in many years. The new bike that I got in march came with X.0 group shifters, and while I was skeptical at first, I'm now a convert. So easy to dump gears quickly. You can shift several gears in either direction at a moment's notice. And I find it much easier to shift and brake at the same time since I don't have to take my thumb off the grip in order to downshift in the back.
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Old 11-29-05, 02:02 PM   #9
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I like gripshifts, but only for XC racing. I dont like how the grips are. I just cannont stand how I had to have my brakes positioned to work with them, and the only grips that felt like they were big enough that they felt good with the shifters were the supplied grips. I have SRAM rocket grips shifts and triggers. I just like the triggers so much more. The instant action of the grips is nice, I can dump all my gears at once if I am surprised by a hill. I dont like any of the shimano shifters however. I dont like the rapidfire shifters because I use just my one finger for braking, and I like to leave it on my brakes just in case. The shimano dual-control shifters are okay, but I cannot shift fast enough for it to work very well. I also dont like the way that they shift. When I have to lift up with my fingers, it is too hard to use just one finger to do it. SRAM's triggers just work so much better in my opinion. It takes no effort to shift the little thumb lever, and the big one is super-long, so it shifts rather eaasily, and I can dump up to 5 gears at once with it.


There we go, thats my two cents. More like a dollar!

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Old 11-29-05, 02:33 PM   #10
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It's a personal thing, however those who prefer them must be a small minority or SRAM would not have developed pod shifters to compete with Shimano.

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SRAM started making just Gripshift. This one product has been successfull enough to allow SRAM to make strategic acquisitions and catapult them to the #2 bicycle component manufacturer in the world.

I think it's VERY clear that Gripshift is a VERY popular product. Given the fact that Shimano virtually owned the OEM shifting market till recently, Gripshift must have been a VERY good product to compel so many people to make this after-market addition.

Despite the fact that Gripshift is wildly popular, not everyone prefers them. SRAM would be stupid to just let all those customers go. So they developed trigger shifters that are widely considered superior to those of Shimano.

Oh BTW. Shimano isn't stupid. They developed their RevoShift to capitalize on the throttle style of shifting.

I've been in different crowds. Some crowds look down on Gripshift. Some swear by them. Some pros prefer triggers. Some prefer SRAM X.0 Grip Shifters. I've done both, I prefer Gripshifters do to their versatility and unparallelled durability.

Oh yeah, and some people really, really like Shimano integrated shifter pods. Horses for courses.
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Old 11-29-05, 04:36 PM   #11
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i have them...i dont see any problem, i find them simple, out of the way, not really damaged in crashes, reliable, and aside from the occasional ghost shifts off jumps from hard landings when my hand makes it shift...its good, just a simple flick and im back in the right gear again
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Old 11-29-05, 04:53 PM   #12
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I have opposable thumbs for several reasons. 1. holding beer bottles. 2. shifting. 3. holding beer bottles.
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Old 11-29-05, 05:04 PM   #13
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i have them...i dont see any problem, i find them simple, out of the way, not really damaged in crashes, reliable, and aside from the occasional ghost shifts off jumps from hard landings when my hand makes it shift...its good, just a simple flick and im back in the right gear again
Not really damaged in crashes? Sometimes for me, but I have had it explode into pieces before.
Gripshifts are good for quick shifting but like you said, they ghost shift.

I prefer triggershifters over gripshifts almost anyday.
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Old 11-29-05, 05:05 PM   #14
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I do. I've been using SRAM gripshift since the mid 90's. Course I'm an old fart too.

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Not really damaged in crashes? Sometimes for me, but I have had it explode into pieces before.
Gripshifts are good for quick shifting but like you said, they ghost shift.

I prefer triggershifters over gripshifts almost anyday.
well i guess if one of them smashed into a rock then yes i think it would break, but what i ment was about them not getting hung up on anything...
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Old 11-29-05, 05:43 PM   #16
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sorry for the useless thread everyone...i haven't been on the site that long and was just getting the feeling people did not use grips much. i know i could have searched....
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Old 11-29-05, 06:44 PM   #17
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sorry for the useless thread everyone...i haven't been on the site that long and was just getting the feeling people did not use grips much. i know i could have searched....

It was not a useless thread. When the thread evolves into a petty squabble over spelling, grammar, and name calling, then it can be officially called a useless thread.


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It was not a useless thread. When the thread evolves into a petty squabble over spelling, grammar, and name calling, then it can be officially called a useless thread.


i am not sure why some have trouble shifting when they don't want to. maybe its because my hands are smaller or something. but if i don't want to have my hand on the shift part then i don't really need to put it there. maybe its because i am used to jumping motorcycles and having throttle control. i twist if i need to and don't twist if i don't need to. hmmmm...i think i will use grip shifts so long as they are not ignored by SRAM
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Old 11-29-05, 09:20 PM   #19
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when I used grip shifts , I only had ghost shifting when they were not adjusted correctly.
had SRAM not come out with their thumb shifters, Id still be using grip shift
I have a set of '96 7.0 ESP that other than the numbers being gone, shift like when they were new and adjusted correctly. Ive not had to adjust the rear this century and until last year that bike (Diamondback XTS3)was my main ride. theyve been on 3 different bikes since they were new.
I hope my attacks hold up as long.
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I not like them.........no,no,no!
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Ok I should clarify. I use them on my dh bike for the chainring shifting only. Mre efficient and very easy to setup. I definately don't care for them for my 9spd setup in the rear.
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I've never used gripshifts on a decent derraileur, so I can't really compare them to my Shimano or SRAM triggers, but I do know that I can't stand half-length grips.
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No on my MTB. I have thumb shifters on the older MTBs and Shimano rapid fire on the newer bikes, with one exception, a Trek with Grip Shifters that no one wants to ride, so we loan it to guests.
Yes on my hybrid. Hey, I think its more fun to ride an index shifting hybrid than an old friction shifting Raleigh.
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What, I didn't see a post by Raiyn
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I don't care for them.
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