Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-21-02, 04:49 PM   #1
KevinST4
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Bikes:
Posts: 17
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
'03 Rockhopper FSR XC or '03 NRS 3?

I'm returning to mountain biking after a 6 year absence and am a bit overwhelmed with all the new technology. I started out looking for a decent hardtail for around $600, but most of the local shops suggested I step into a full suspension bike. The Specialized Rockhopper FSR XC and the Giant NRS 3 seem to be the best bikes in my budget (approx $1000). Which bike would be better for a 200 lbs guy that plans to ride mostly moderate trails? I really like the components on the Giant, but I have read that their frames are thin. Also, I am open to other suggestions that fit within my budget.

Kevin
KevinST4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 04:58 PM   #2
PeterG1185
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MI
Bikes:
Posts: 691
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
if you're set on getting an f/s i'd get the FSR far and above the giant
PeterG1185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 05:33 PM   #3
KleinMp99
New to bikeforýms.net
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Bikes:
Posts: 2,202
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by PeterG1185
if you're set on getting an f/s i'd get the FSR far and above the giant
I'm with ya on that!!!
KleinMp99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 05:34 PM   #4
WorldIRC
Canadian eh?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Me too!
WorldIRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 05:54 PM   #5
KevinST4
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Bikes:
Posts: 17
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I appreciate the comments so far. To put a different spin on things, in my price range should I be looking at a hardtail instead? When I first started shopping I was set on a hardtail, but the sales guy at the LBS told me I would be better served with a f/s bike. I was looking at a Rockhopper Comp and he showed me the f/s version which had all the same components as the hardtail for $250 more. Seemed like a good deal. After doing some more research it seems that most people have the opinion that unless you spend $1250 or more you should stay away from full suspension. Does this still hold true for the 2003 models? I was told the '03 Rockhopper FSR XC is comparable to the '02 Stumpjumper FSR. Is this analysis correct?

Kevin
KevinST4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 07:11 PM   #6
Scooby Snax
Guest
 
Bikes:
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
I think that the 03 FSR XC stumpjumpers / rockhoppers are still the same as last year, Sumps being M4 sluminium and rocks being A1?
But a 02 or 03 Rockhopper is basically the same as a 00 Stumpjumper I was told.
(I just got a 02 Sumpjumper FSR XC, and man do I like it!)

Basically the difference is that a rockhopper has slightly less race geometry, slightly heavier frame, and slightly lower grade components. But are well speced bikes. But I think that the ride is quirte similar

Giant NRS 3's ride more like a hard tail, but dont have as active a suspension. A Giant NRS3 frame is the same as thire NRS1, its a good frame, just the shock is different.
Giant builds frames for most companies, specialized, trek, and others and they do give great value in the way of components to their bikes.

Why dont you ride em both and see which one you like.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 07:22 PM   #7
WorldIRC
Canadian eh?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Remember to make sure that it fits.
WorldIRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-02, 08:42 PM   #8
Maelstrom 
Wood Licker
 
Maelstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002 and specialized BMX
Posts: 16,885
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by KevinST4
I appreciate the comments so far. To put a different spin on things, in my price range should I be looking at a hardtail instead? When I first started shopping I was set on a hardtail, but the sales guy at the LBS told me I would be better served with a f/s bike. I was looking at a Rockhopper Comp and he showed me the f/s version which had all the same components as the hardtail for $250 more. Seemed like a good deal. After doing some more research it seems that most people have the opinion that unless you spend $1250 or more you should stay away from full suspension. Does this still hold true for the 2003 models? I was told the '03 Rockhopper FSR XC is comparable to the '02 Stumpjumper FSR. Is this analysis correct?

Kevin
I am a big believer in only buying good fs. However if you won't be rough on it and only ride pretty basic xc trails they should hold up. I wouldn't do drops, downhill or even aggro xc on a 1000$ fs. I am 1000% sure it would break and wouold end up costing more than its worth.

I am also a ht fan so generally I will always recommend (especially beginners) someone to get a hardtail. Discover what type of riding you like and how rough you will be and then you will be better served when you want to get a fs in the future (if you ever need one)
Maelstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-02, 06:49 AM   #9
WoodyUpstate
xc AND road
 
WoodyUpstate's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Upstate NY
Bikes:
Posts: 503
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What will you be riding? Dirt roads, fire roads, bike paths. . . hard tail will do as f/s is probably overkill.

How do you ride? Laid back, not aggressive. . . a hard tail will do.

Is racing in your future? If yes, go with a HT as you'll get a lighter, better spec bike in your price range. Mid-range f/s are porky. I'd rather have a 25 lb. HT than a 30 lb. f/s to race with.

NRS vs. FSR. I ride an NRS, but could be happy with the FSR. Because the NRS 3 uses the same frame as the NRS Air (different shock, though), it is very upgradeable. The FSR will give a better ride over small bumps as the suspension is always active. The NRS rides rough over the little stuff, but eats up bigger bumps just fine. The NRS climbs better without needing a rear lockout.

I'll argue that the NRS is a better race bike, but that's just my biased opinion.

If racing isn't in your future, I'd recommend the FSR.
WoodyUpstate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-02, 07:10 AM   #10
MtnBikerChk
Senior Member
 
MtnBikerChk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Bikes:
Posts: 307
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by KevinST4
I appreciate the comments so far. To put a different spin on things, in my price range should I be looking at a hardtail instead? When I first started shopping I was set on a hardtail, but the sales guy at the LBS told me I would be better served with a f/s bike. I was looking at a Rockhopper Comp and he showed me the f/s version which had all the same components as the hardtail for $250 more. Seemed like a good deal. After doing some more research it seems that most people have the opinion that unless you spend $1250 or more you should stay away from full suspension. Does this still hold true for the 2003 models? I was told the '03 Rockhopper FSR XC is comparable to the '02 Stumpjumper FSR. Is this analysis correct?

Kevin
what kind of riding will you do?
MtnBikerChk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-02, 10:11 AM   #11
KevinST4
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Bikes:
Posts: 17
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My riding will be limited to XC mostly. I will also put in a little road time while I try to get my riding legs and lungs back. The hardtails I looked at included the Klein Attitude, Giant XTC 2 and the Gary Fisher HKEK. Any opinions on these bikes? The Klein has the best looking frame by far, but I'm not sure if the compact geometry would be best for me. I'm 6' 1" and don't want a bike that puts me in a bad position. I rode all three and they all felt pretty good around the parking lot, but I'm not sure how they will be after some time on a trail.

Kevin
KevinST4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-02, 11:45 AM   #12
Cdude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Bikes:
Posts: 113
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a friend a little taller than you, and he loves his XTC 2, its got a good fork, good geometry, race face cranks (a big plus for someone on your side) and a ton of other good stuff.

While the Klien is the better frame, its not the better bike.
Cdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-03, 08:22 PM   #13
simplyhuge
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 29
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i just bought a giant nrs3 for 800$ is this a good price? its a little big for me cause my crotch is right on top of the bar. The bike shop told me a it was a little big but the only other bike they had left in my size was one of the top of the line giants that was like over 2000 that they were getting rid of for 1400. I only plan on riding this in the streets and just messing around so it doesnt really matter that its a little big. I heard bigger bikes are faster is this true.
simplyhuge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-03, 10:10 PM   #14
bentrim
Guest
 
Bikes:
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Snax
I think that the 03 FSR XC stumpjumpers / rockhoppers are still the same as last year, Sumps being M4 sluminium and rocks being A1?
Does anyone know what Specialized's A1, M4, M5,...aluminums are equivalent to? I know M5 is allegedly better than M4 which is better than A1.

But how do they compare to stock aluminum: 6061, 7005, Easton, etc. used by most manufacturers ('though I admit I don't know the qualitative differences in those aluminums either).

Just wondering how much of this aluminum labelling is factual, and how much of it is marketing hype.

Also, how are they heat treated (which is often more important than the aluminum grade)? T-6, T-6(2)?

Last edited by bentrim; 12-02-03 at 10:18 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-03, 10:50 PM   #15
Jim311
Senior Member
 
Jim311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Gainesville, Florida
Bikes:
Posts: 1,791
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'd take the NRS personally.
Jim311 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-03, 11:17 PM   #16
Dannihilator
User Title
 
Dannihilator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Annandale, New Jersey
Bikes: 2014 Surly Steamroller, 1989 Nishiki Altron
Posts: 19,421
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
I'd say got with the XTC SE2.
Dannihilator is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:29 AM.