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Old 10-22-02, 06:01 PM   #1
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Which bike to choose?!

I got a dilema here... I'm looking at the 2003 Specialized BigHit Expert ($2700) and the 2003 Kona Stinky-Delux ($2600). They share nearly the same level of components! I am planning to test ride both, but I need some opinions. I weigh around 130 and plan to pull drops up to 10 feet with which ever bike I decide to buy. I'll be doing mostly freeriding and possibly do a little downhill racing for a sponser(s). In opinion which is stronger, lighter, more efficient, a better deal, and better for a person like me. Thanks.

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Specialized Big Hit Expert:
http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...untain&my=2003

Kona Stinky-Delux:
http://www.konaworld.com/2k3/2k3bikes.cfm
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Id go with the kona they have such a great reputation and look very sterdy. Idk though i ride devinci, thats another good brand to look into! Beets me
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No contest. Stinky. ...sorry but that is one of the TOP freeride bikes around.
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Old 10-22-02, 09:01 PM   #4
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No contest.
Come on now....they are both very good bikes.

The bighits are really sweet, and they pedal great. Its cool that you can handle big bikes being such a small kid (if you are) and going that big at such a young age (if you are young). I am either getting an expert or comp next year, I cant wait!!

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Old 10-22-02, 09:12 PM   #5
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I know. But if I had the cash the Stinky is one of my dream bikes. Just one of those things. The specialized is great and PROBABLY dollar for dollar a better bike. Kona's tend to be overpriced.
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Yeah I'm fairly young (15 years). I have been doing drops at around 5-7 feet with my current ride. However I'm afraid to break the frame or damage it. I have a SC fork which doesn't deliver anywhere near enough travel for what I have been doing as well as what I'm planning to do. I've been getting feedback that balances out the two bikes. I know test riding both will answer a lot, but what about stregnth, weight, or value. Which one can take the hits better or absorb the bumps better? Reason why I ask is cause I can't bring the demo out on the trails that have the demanding terrain. I also have noticed Konas are fairly over priced, but this year's model seems to have a better deal than earlier models. I'll be doing a whole lot of freeriding, but as I said I may race downhill once in a while. So i need to put both into consideration when I buy this bike. Overall, I don't know which way to go on this. So help!:confused:
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Ok. Well the Stinky is the freeride bike. Most people out here either ride those OR Ellsworth. Both are proven to be tough. Specialized is strong and offers much of the same. I would test ride both and see for yourself. They can both carry you to the next level.

Kona's are overpriced and under speced because of strenght. They consisitently hold up tougher than MOST other model bikes. They are well worth the extra cash.

At the level of bike you are talking about the test ride is the only way.

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I love Kona's bikes and they are a great company. All my mtb are Kona and I have been riding them since the early 90's.
This is one case though I would say get the BigHit. If you are going to race the BH will have better geometry then the Stinky. But if you will be doing more freeriding and just the occasional dh I would say get the Stinky because the geometry is suited better for that. They both are good bikes so the one that fits you the best will be the one to get. Just remember that with these types of bikes you will not be able to truely test them with out being out on the trail. A ride in the parking lot will not do either justice. The one that feels better in the lot may not be the better one on the trail. If the shop has these as demo bikes I suggest you take them both out for a ride.

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No contest for me either. I'd have the Stinky already!!! Who cares if the bighit has a few better parts, parts wear out. What matters is the frame. I think you will be much happier with Kona. Kona's are great bikes, plus you'll be in the hip cowd.
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anybody have either a Kona Stinky or Bighit? And another question, is it smarter to buy it in the off season for a better deal? I noticed many bike stores sell their bikes at fairly low prices during these upcoming months.
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Personally unless there is a big jump in tech I would buy a 2002 in the next 6 months. Much cheaper. Sometimes (Marzocchi forks come to mind) it is smarter to buy the NEWEST. In this case I don't think there is a huge improvement so I would go with 2002.

I am not sure about the specialize though. Could be major differences.
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I'm definitely shooting for the 2003 Jr. T cause it's a sweet fork. Both bikes have it. The Big Hit has major changes for 2003 believe it or not. What do people think of Specialized components in general? cause i know the bighit has a bunch of them that come with it. And which is better: Sunglide rims or the Mavics? Is the Kona frame considered single pivot?
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The Stinky has an extra inch of travel for '03.
No, it is a four-bar linkage system.

I own a 2000 Stinky and a 2003 Stab Primo. They are both great bikes and I have never had a problem with the frame. I believe that Maelstrom also rides a Stinky and there are a few others. All Kona owners seem to love their bikes as do I.
One other plus that Kona has is great customer support. They have always helped me out.
The JrT is a superb fork with a plush feel and handles large hits great.

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hehe I wish. I am actually a ht rider. I bought a Roast to start with for training purposes. Stinky or Dawg / Bear next year though

Mavics are my favorite rims. The first to hold up to my abuse for longer than a couple of months.

Both bikes generally have the same componentry. I personaly prefer the stinky overall. Especially that new colour. Almost makes me wanna skip any major upgrades and just go for broke The rims on the Stinky are better for freeriding.

Really it comes down to your purpose. If you are going to freeride more I think the stinky is the ****. If you plan to do some racing I think the specialized 'may' be better.
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How heavy is it and how heavy is the front? You find it easy to get the front up in the air?
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A stock stinky is like 39 pounds. They can varry I know people that have them decked to 55pnds. It depends on your setup and what you want it for.

Front end weight is irrelenvant. You learn to lift the heavier front end with a short time. I ride my friends stinky periodically and don't notice a difference for wheelies drops etc...
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How heavy is it and how heavy is the front? You find it easy to get the front up in the air?
Before I retired her from the dh sceen she weighed approx. 58lbs.
Now that I have set it up for xc/fr the weight is down to some where around 35lbs. I have not weighed the bike yet. The fork I was using weighed 8lbs and I never had a problem lifting the front. Even at it's heaviest I was always able to fling it around as if it was some where in the 20's. Doing drops or doubles was never any problem, I could point her where ever and she would hit the mark.

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You used a Stinky for DH? How did it handle that?
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Well she helped me to 3rd place overall. With a longer stroke shock(8" instead of the oe 5") it lengthend the wheel base and gave the bike slacker geometry which in turn made it more stable at speed. Also using a 30mm stem rather then the 80mm stem helped out with the control. The bike still wanted to push the front a bit but not as much as she did originaly. Also, the corses we run on are technical with alot of drops and jumps so the flickability so to speak was a plus. The bike never got squerly no matter how fast we went. Here is a pic of us in action:
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Cool. Sweet photo.
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Kona or Specialized components? Which one is better (meaning their own components, not bought from other companies to put on their bikes). And thanks again for all the great responses!
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I assume you are referring to seat, seatpost, stem etc...Kona pedals rule, I doubt they make their own stem but it is very strong. Kona probably buys parts from another company and stamps the kona decal on it. I don't doubt specialized probably does that as well.

All I know is Kona doesn't have that nasty S stamped all over every spar area on the parts.
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*After checking the FSR in the basement, running back upstairs in my Gucci slippers*

Maelstom, um I think I need help!!! That "S" is everywhere!!


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Especially if you have the tires and seat. Jeez
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Ha, my brother has a Specialized Hard Rock Comp and I know what you mean by having S's all over the place. The even slapped one under the BB.

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You meant they do the same as Kona? cause I thought they made their own stuff.

Another thing, why doesn't Kona have a lifetime warranty on the frame? They only have 5 years.

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