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    I have been trying to figure out what mnt bikes are out there that women like to ride and why.

    Four questions: 1. What mnt. bike to you currently ride?
    2. Why?
    3. If money was no issue, what would be your ideal mnt. bike?
    4. Again, why?

    Me: 1. Fisher Tass, unfortunately not the GS model, though it works ok.
    2. Why? It is very pretty and was affordable on my first ever salaried pay check (how else should one celebrate a first pay check other than buying a bike) and it was in the store already. It also felt better than the trek of the same size that was also in the store.
    3. Juliana Superlight by Santa Cruz I *think* but I'm hoping to get some interesting ideas from this thread.
    4. Because I'm tiny, so some big FS rig with tons of travel makes no sense, but I want I do want an FS. And because I'm most interested in cross-country riding. Oh, and you get to pick the color (did I mention asthetics are big for me?)

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    My ex-wife gifted herself with a Santa Cruz Juliana just before she left. She said it fit better than any bike she had ridden and I could hear her laughing on it every time she hit a bump on the trail. It was white and looked great. If you're small I would reccomend the lightest stuff you can afford for climbing, although one of the ladies I ride with kicks butt on a Specialized Epic, not the lightest rig out there.

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    Yeah, that was my logic too, there doesn't seem to be much out there that is lighter than the Juliana as far as I know. Anyone care to disagree?

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    Girlscout13 rides a Hardrock.
    Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......

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    1. Cannondale F300, upgraded to disk brakes
    2. Only had about 20 minutes to pick a bike, the Kona's stretched my upper body out too much, the Specialized in stock were all too small, Husband has had the same Cannondale for 20+ (pre-suspension!) years and it STILL works perfectly. I like the Made in the USA (I know it pushes the price up) and it is my FAVORITE color. It was the best bike for me at the shop at that time, I was new to mountain biking and didn't know anything about anything.
    3. Santa Cruz Juliana....I'm livin the dream!!! Frame is ordered, I expect to be ready in about a month or so
    4. I love my Cannondale, but am ready to add FS to the mix. My bike guy, who I trust with my $$, swears by this bike. He has spent a lot of time fitting me for my road bike, so he knows my fitting need. The shorter top tube will make it easier for me to pull "up" on the front, rather than "back" which is what I tend to do when I get tired, so I have a harder time making it over rocks, etc. He also tells me I will be able to climb like I never thought I would be able to. My Cannondale is "fat" - heavy. (don't ever call a woman's bike "fat"!!!! Just avoid that word - you girls KNOW what I mean-HA! Anyway, I am looking forward to the lightness of this bike. Bike guy says he has never had a dissatisified customer with this bike, this will be the BEST and LAST (durable) bike I will buy.

    I was in the bike shop today, the frame is being painted!!! We discussed components. Cost can be crazy high or reasonably high depending on the components. I am paying it off in pieces. Got the frame purchased but it can take awhile to get it, which gives me time to save up for the components. My family thinks I'm crazy, but hey, I'm almost 40 yrs old, trying to keep up with my 14 yr old son, it's cheaper than a mid-life crisis sports car or something, lasts longer than a trip to Hawaii and makes me happy. They just don't understand. I told them to think of it as a big giant Prozac pill, they seem to get that - sheesh. Needless to say, they are more "indoor" folk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sngltrackdufus
    40 y/o isn't old dude. I am 40 & have outridden,outclimbed ppl that are less than half my age.
    I read in a MTB mag a few years ago about this guy that was a retired ditch digger/truck driver in Austrailia that was like 68 y/o that took up downhill racing,made pro & soared to the top whippin' up on all the youngsters.
    i still have it here somewhere in the mag box.........
    i will post it
    I ride purt near 40 miles every day do a laborous type of work & still have plenty of jump afterwards..
    I would love to read about the 68 yrs old kicking a**. Nice to know 40 isn't old, now maybe my husband won't trade me in for 2 20's! I still look pretty hot for may age .... and I am able to keep up with my 14 yr old. I mostly use that "old" stuff to justify to my family the need for a "cushy" ride
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    1. I currently ride a Gary Fisher Cake and a Kona Caldera

    2. I always dreamed of the Cake but felt it was way out of my league. My LBS guy who I have known forever, gave me a killer deal on it (plus it was *pretty*). Nobody had ever ridden it, for it was hanging from the ceiling. My Kona was the hardtail I always wanted and hoped for.

    3. If money was no issue, it would lead me to higher expectations, which would never end, due to the bigger, the better, the more advanced. But that is not reality. Money IS an issue, and I'm lucky to have these bikes as it is.


    These bikes are my dream bikes. And as you can see, I don't have big dreams. But I am very satisfied with what I have and I don't think of possibly having any others unless something happens to them.
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    A Kona and a Cake are a pretty sweet dream. The Cake is a nice tough bike with a plush suspension system. Did you get the women's GS model?

    Wow MudSpattered let us know how your Julian turns out! What color did you get?

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    Nah, couldn't even afford the GS. It was the second from the top of their Cake line. I got the second from the bottom of the line Cake 4DLX (5 inches) in the men's frame. Fits me just fine. He said the GS is for the tinier ladies, and even though I tried it in my size, it was still....it felt small. I went for what was comfortable. My Kona on the other hand has a compact frame and is smaller than the Cake but I feel comfortable on that, too. Different bikes, different uses, different feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    Yeah, that was my logic too, there doesn't seem to be much out there that is lighter than the Juliana as far as I know. Anyone care to disagree?
    Titus Racer-X, which is what I'm putting together for my wife. Should be under 25 pounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudSplattered
    the Kona's stretched my out too much,

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    Wow, that Titus does look like a dream bike indeed. I will have to look into that. Do you know the frame weight? I couldn't find it on their site.

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    I heard that the Moots frame is 3.60 lbs. My Nephew owns a shop in Colorado where they carry them. Hopefully this summer I will be able to hang out there. He said he could have a custom ti Moots Rigor measured out for me but still the frame alone is $1400 just for him to get. Nice offer but I still love what I have.
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    Yeah, custom Titanium would be nice in almost any flavor. For full suspension Independent Fabrications' Tungstin Electrode is another sweet alternative. That is about 4000 for just the frame though. 1400 is actually a great price for a Ti frame. I think even for a hardtail, but you do look like you have your bases well covered with your Fisher and Kona combo. Is the Kona women-specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    Wow, that Titus does look like a dream bike indeed. I will have to look into that. Do you know the frame weight? I couldn't find it on their site.
    2270 grams for a Medium aluminum frame [including shock], so the small should be lighter. The Racer-X 80 comes in Wee, Very Wee, and Friggin' Tiny sizes. If you want spooky-light, the Trek Fuel carbon bikes are crazy light, maybe even sub-2000 grams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    Wow MudSpattered let us know how your Julian turns out! What color did you get?

    Liquid Blue!!! I'm a blue girl. Wished they did the Juliana in anodized blue, that would rock!

    Bike guy says we can get the weight way down,but lighter = big big $$. That would be overkill for me.

    I will post a pic of my blue baby when it arrives!

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    I ride a Titus RacerX.

    It's alum but rides as well as my Aegis Carbon Fiber road bike. I'm small too, mine's an XS.

    Kathi

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    Yeah, the Trek fuel would be my first choice if it came in a women's specific, but its not the "Very Wee" size that I need :-). According to the weight weenies website it comes in at 2500 g with the shock, which is pretty damn good. THe Titus seems to measure up though. At least in terms of weight. THe next thing to consider would be suspension systems. I would love any input on the best suspension systems for smaller people, and comments on how well the systems on the bikes we have mentioned work.

    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...spensionframes

    Liquid blue huh MudSpattered? I'm a orange girl, but that sounds pretty tempting. Enjoy building it up and let us know how it rides!

    Has anyone ridden a Ghost women's mtb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    THe next thing to consider would be suspension systems. I would love any input on the best suspension systems for smaller people, and comments on how well the systems on the bikes we have mentioned work.
    Now THAT is a tough question. My personal favourite FS design [regardless of rider size] has been a well-executed Horst link design, which seems to work best on bikes with 4" of rear travel or less. The Titus Racer-X has it, and so does the Ghost. You seem to be looking for lighter bikes, for XC riding. If so, keep an eye on the higher-end 4" travel stuff, as well as anything that appears geared toward racing. The proof will be in a thorough test-ride. To really lighten the bike, you can save a lot of weight by going with lighter handlebar/stem/seatpost/tires/seat/fork/etc.

    ***WARNING: RANT!***
    One of the things that has always bugged me about "woman-specific design" bikes is that they tweak the frame by shortening the TT by 0.5" and paint it pink or turquoise. Almost everything else stays the same. That means that the components are designed to be able to handle a 200 pound guy who likes to huck on occasion. I'm not saying that you don't toss your bike off 6' drops, but you are less likely to need a 250g freeride bar when a good-quality 135g flat XC bar will work just as well at almost half the weight. One of the worst offenders is Specialized. They reduced the TT length on their small ladies' bike by 14mm. That's it. The bike is almost 29 pounds. Trek does a better job by fiddling with the frame geometry, but the componentry doesn't change [other than thinner grips, a wider seat and short reach brakes], so the bikes weigh more than they need to. That's the main reason I offered to build up a bike from scratch for my wife. She's coughing up $3000+ for a bike, and there's no reason it should weigh 3 pounds more than it needs to.
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    GOod info, thanks. I totally agree about women's specific bikes too. THe color thing drives me nuts first off. I hate pink AND torquise. As for components, It doesn't look like they do a frameset or that is probably what I would do. Instead I'll guess I will get the higher end gruppo and part out what I don't want and replace that with lighter stuff like you suggested. I'm really wee after all, and I don't jump off stuff higher than a couple of feet. Even then I'd like it to be a nice cooshy dirt jump, not some mini-cliff. WHere did you find your frameset? What's really frustrating is it is nearly impossible to find a bike in my size to test ride, but my boss I have just discovered has a Titus and I think it is a racer-X 15" bike. I would steer funny for me, but it might give me some idea of how it works.

    THanks again for the input. I am really leaning twards the Titus now, and I didn't even know it existed earlier.

    Anyone else with an amazeing dream bike that I should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    Yeah, custom Titanium would be nice in almost any flavor. For full suspension Independent Fabrications' Tungstin Electrode is another sweet alternative. That is about 4000 for just the frame though. 1400 is actually a great price for a Ti frame. I think even for a hardtail, but you do look like you have your bases well covered with your Fisher and Kona combo. Is the Kona women-specific?

    Yes, it IS a good price for a ti. Normal price is 2600 non-custom for the frame.

    The Caldera is not WSD. They have one called "LISA" new for 2006 that is supposed to be the women's version of the Caldera but mine is 05. For 06 Kona went down in components - that's why I picked and 05 on sale. Better bike, better price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    1. What mnt. bike to you currently ride?
    GT Avalanche, extra small frame. Originally an '04 model but have upgraded many times. One upgrade was installing a shorter stem as I was too streched out with the stock one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    2. Why?
    Because it was the smallest frame available without going to 24" wheels.
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    3. If money was no issue, what would be your ideal mnt. bike?
    As it stands the GT is all I could want geometry wise. If I had the dough I would spend it on extra shiny and light high-end components
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    4. Again, why?
    I love the feel of my current bike and I like having new things to install on it. Anything to make it that little bit smoother to ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    WHere did you find your frameset? What's really frustrating is it is nearly impossible to find a bike in my size to test ride, but my boss I have just discovered has a Titus and I think it is a racer-X 15" bike. I would steer funny for me, but it might give me some idea of how it works.

    THanks again for the input. I am really leaning twards the Titus now, and I didn't even know it existed earlier.
    I diligently surfed the interweb for over a month, looking for a closeout or even something used. It was going to be a Turner Flux ['05], Blur XC [but only in ano blue], Titus or Ellsworth Truth. I asked two local shops about pricing on these, and for the parts pick I had in mind, it was going to be at least $4k for the Blur [which my wife wasn't in love with] and closer to $5k for the others [Canadian $]. A friend of ours got a used Turner Flux with full XT for $3700 CAD [$2800 USD + tax], so that was our benchmark.

    I found the frame at Speedgoat.com for $500 off on an end-of season closeout. Things started falling into place after that. Juicy 7 brakes for 1/2 off. End of season blowouts at Greenfish bikes and Cambriabike.com. Wheels from oddsandendos.com. I chose parts that were designed for weight-weenie XC-racer types and weren't cool anymore - which means big discounts. Total damage is just under $3600 CAD [Just over $3000 USD]. Weight is about 1.5 pounds lighter than a std. Blur in the same price range. I have to assemble it for her, but other than the headset, everything just screws onto the bike, so it should take about 2 hours to build and tune.

    If you have the means and patience to piece together a bike 1 part at a time, it's possible to get some good deals. You can also buy an entire bike, like this hardtail at Ibex, for cheap, then swap the components over to your new bike. In this case, you'd likely have to get a different seatpost and front derailleur, but that's it.
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    HEy Noif666

    What is the seat tube length on your GT? The GT website is a bit unclear. It sounds like a nice bike. Was it the smallist you could find locally, or the smallest production frame you could order?

    THanks for the advice on bike building Pinkrobe, I have actually built up a couple of fixed gears, so I have some idea of what it entails, but of course, building a geared bike is a bit more complex. I do like the ability to select components that it allows you though.

    Shorty

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    Hi Shorty, using a ruler (I'm at work and have no access to efficient measuring tools...) the seat tube length is approximately 38cm.

    This picture is from when I first got the bike, most things have changed...I have a ladies specific saddle (mmm squishy), I got new forks which I cut down to make the saddle and bars about level and a shorter stem - which alleviated the shoulder pain I was experiencing. Then there's all the things that weren't exactly necessary but make riding easy and fun (hydro disc brakes, 9 speed cassette, clipless pedals, flashing led valve caps...I love gadgets )

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