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Old 01-14-06, 03:29 PM   #1
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Braided Brake Lines?

Where can i get stainless braided hydrolic brake lines?
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Old 01-14-06, 04:14 PM   #2
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hope makes them.

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...ess+Steel.aspx
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Old 01-14-06, 05:12 PM   #3
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Where can i get stainless braided hydrolic brake lines?
do you:

a) actually need new lines
b) want to improve performance
c) just want the looks

if a and c, i totally understand. if b, you might not want to until a or c happens.
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Old 01-14-06, 05:19 PM   #4
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Yeah i mainly want them for the looks, personally i think they look awesome
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Old 01-14-06, 05:21 PM   #5
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Yeah i mainly want them for the looks, personally i think they look awesome
and the performance is an added plus

i think they would look pretty awsome on your bike (just took a look at it in the rigs thread)
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Old 01-14-06, 06:55 PM   #6
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Goodridge. Leakproof, kinkproof, and no expansion.
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oh yea forgot about them, i heard they made the best brake lines for bikes you can buy

true???
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Old 01-14-06, 07:05 PM   #8
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i've had Goodridge braided lines on my car for about three years - and i drive like a psycho. they still look like new, pedal still high and hard - less than 1/2 inch of drop before brakes begin to bite, and that's probably all in the 250k mile brake linkage.

i didn't know they made lines for bikes, too. i'd recommend them in a second, based on my car experience.
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oh yea forgot about them, i heard they made the best brake lines for bikes you can buy

true???
They have only been available a year or so. I have heard amazing things specifically about the mtb lines however, they are very expensive.
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They have only been available a year or so. I have heard amazing things specifically about the mtb lines however, they are very expensive.
Not that expensive. $100 for F/R on the tandem. That's pretty cheap to me for a one-time purchase. I had extended braided lines on my Landcruiser to handle the long travel suspension. Since then, I cannot imagine why all hydraulic brake lines aren't braided stainless.
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Old 01-14-06, 08:09 PM   #11
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I think these are the ones i am going to go with if i get any braided line becuas eit seems like hope has it figured out good.
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Actually, I think Goodridge makes them for Hope. I know they make them for Magura.
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Not that expensive. $100 for F/R on the tandem. That's pretty cheap to me for a one-time purchase. I had extended braided lines on my Landcruiser to handle the long travel suspension. Since then, I cannot imagine why all hydraulic brake lines aren't braided stainless.
Thats signifigantly cheaper than when they first came out. They used to be about 125$ cdn per brake.
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Yeah, that's a bit pricey. They're downright cheap now. And they'll outlast just about everything on your bike.
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do you:

a) actually need new lines
b) want to improve performance
c) just want the looks

if a and c, i totally understand. if b, you might not want to until a or c happens.

Yeah dude mx is right for the most part, dont get it just for the looks. Yet it might look kick ass to have a metal hose on your mountian bike many problems could arise from using them. Most brake companies do not support these hoses so there for all of the connections are not solid what so ever and results in slow leakage or air introduction. this air, if in the caliper, can not only cause lose of pressure, but also brake fade from insufficiant heat distrabution. The other problems are included in the mechanics of the brake working with the expantion of the hose. I know that if you use these hoses for your brakes they do not improve prformance but all together hinder it. if anyone does any real research they would know what the black hoses are made of and how much better they are than metal. -warranty void also-
actually now that i think of it the only really good reason to buy these is cause of the looks, go with goodridge if your heart desires.
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Yeah dude mx is right for the most part, dont get it just for the looks. Yet it might look kick ass to have a metal hose on your mountian bike many problems could arise from using them. Most brake companies do not support these hoses so there for all of the connections are not solid what so ever and results in slow leakage or air introduction. this air, if in the caliper, can not only cause lose of pressure, but also brake fade from insufficiant heat distrabution. The other problems are included in the mechanics of the brake working with the expantion of the hose. I know that if you use these hoses for your brakes they do not improve prformance but all together hinder it. if anyone does any real research they would know what the black hoses are made of and how much better they are than metal. -warranty void also-
actually now that i think of it the only really good reason to buy these is cause of the looks, go with goodridge if your heart desires.
Ah, what would sydney say? Rubbish! Not only is that all so wrong, it's ridiculous. Every bit of it.

Fact: Magura will not warranty their brakes for use on a tandem unless you use Goodridge braided lines.
Fact: Goodridge lines and fittings meet or exceed the design standards of stock Magura lines/fittings.
Fact: Stock hoses cannot handle the heat that tandems can produce under sustained braking. For this reason, Magura will not allow their brakes on a tandem without the Goodridge lines.

So here you have a brake manufacturer specifically advising to use braided lines from an aftermarket company, and all their reasons are exactly opposite of what you posted. Feel free to provide something to back up your comments.

By the way, Goodridge lines are available with a clear coating, so they don't scratch your paint. It will look nice on my bare titanium frame.
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does anyone know if Goodridge makes them for Avid Juicy brakes too? And also, are they much heavier than regular lines? Thanks.
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Ah, what would sydney say? Rubbish! Not only is that all so wrong, it's ridiculous. Every bit of it.

Fact: Magura will not warranty their brakes for use on a tandem unless you use Goodridge braided lines.
Fact: Goodridge lines and fittings meet or exceed the design standards of stock Magura lines/fittings.
Fact: Stock hoses cannot handle the heat that tandems can produce under sustained braking. For this reason, Magura will not allow their brakes on a tandem without the Goodridge lines.

So here you have a brake manufacturer specifically advising to use braided lines from an aftermarket company, and all their reasons are exactly opposite of what you posted. Feel free to provide something to back up your comments.

By the way, Goodridge lines are available with a clear coating, so they don't scratch your paint. It will look nice on my bare titanium frame.
you need to jump outside the small box that is magura, do your research then post back. Everything is true that i stated for the few exceptions about magura. Who rides that magura **** anyway? how do they ride? i have only field tested them, not a full ride test. dont let my junior status fool you, I know what im talking about. We are talking bike brakes by the way not super high pressure car or slede brakes, there is no need for these hoses if they are not required they create problems.
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does anyone know if Goodridge makes them for Avid Juicy brakes too? And also, are they much heavier than regular lines? Thanks.
Scroll down this page - about $100 for the set:
http://www.go-ride.com/prod_brakes.html

The weight difference can't be much. The performance benefit certainly outweighs the weight penalty.


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you need to jump outside the small box that is magura, do your research then post back. Everything is true that i stated for the few exceptions about magura. Who rides that magura **** anyway? how do they ride? i have only field tested them, not a full ride test. dont let my junior status fool you, I know what im talking about. We are talking bike brakes by the way not super high pressure car or slede brakes, there is no need for these hoses if they are not required they create problems.
I backed up my claims with info I received from Magura and Goodridge, as well as my own research. Now it is your turn to link us to something that can back up your claims. Take your time, I've got all day.
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In the meantime, anyone want some interesting reading?

On Goodridge lines
Oh, look! SRAM hydraulics are made by Grimeca, and come stock with braided lines!
Want to mix Shimano/Hope/Hayes/Avid hydraulic components? With braided lines?

That's a start.
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Scroll down this page - about $100 for the set:
http://www.go-ride.com/prod_brakes.html

The weight difference can't be much. The performance benefit certainly outweighs the weight penalty.




I backed up my claims with info I received from Magura and Goodridge, as well as my own research. Now it is your turn to link us to something that can back up your claims. Take your time, I've got all day.
I could give a **** if you guys f up your brakes or not, all the proof you'll need is calling avid, hayes....and the other companies. Ask them if its alright to put the line on there brakes and you will get a straight answer. I know hayes for sure is a warranty issue because I called them direct. Do your research with the companies themselves instead of some third party. For everyone, modifying a companies product results in warranty void. you have any proof to back up your statements?
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I could give a **** if you guys f up your brakes or not, all the proof you'll need is calling avid, hayes....and the other companies. Ask them if its alright to put the line on there brakes and you will get a straight answer. I know hayes for sure is a warranty issue because I called them direct. Do your research with the companies themselves instead of some third party. For everyone, modifying a companies product results in warranty void. you have any proof to back up your statements?
You're making claims you cannot back up. And you're using profanity, which is not acceptable. I suggest you refrain from the profanity, and provide a link or two to back up your claims.
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Geeee, calm down guys! Not worth getting all worked up over break lines!!
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SHUTUP MAV THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!
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does anyone know if Goodridge makes them for Avid Juicy brakes too? And also, are they much heavier than regular lines? Thanks.
Be careful that you get the right lines though. The first juicys (the ones with the black reserviour cap) used a large 1.0mm thread pitch. Goodridge makes the #109 kit for these brakes. The later juicys (the ones with reserviour caps ths same color as the lever) used a more common 0.75mm thread and uses the #108 kit.
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