every fork i've ever riden ever on a bike has been soft!! i'm not fat, @ 140 lbs i bottom out everything. i have a shiver sc i bought because apparently it was stiff. i bottomed it out on a 3 ft, which is weak. So i got heavy springs, and still bottomed it out on small stuff. Now i have raised the oil level like crazy and now it's a little better. I wish they weren't like this. I'm nervous to take this off an 8 ft drop to flat concrete which i used to do on my manitou stance flow. I only did this on the flow because i could care less if it blew up because it bottomed out so hard. So i guess i'm going to get some extra firms, as well as some 10 wt motorcycle fork oil. Who else is sick of buying ride kits besides me?