AusTai

Hi, I've used regular Eggbeaters for a while but have only tried the Candy Eggbeaters this last weekend. Are the Candy Eggbeaters, the ones with the platforms, supposed to have almost zero degrees of release angle? My shoe was locked on and held rigidly in place and any twisting caused the shoe to unsnap. I'm thinking my ATB shoes must not have the cleats adjusted right but they work fine with the regular Eggbeaters.

An unrelated question: any try both the Eggbeaters (non-platform) and ATAC XE's? What's your opinion of the two? Thanks

free_pizza

raiyn uses Atac's, not sure what version though. He hasnt been around for a while though..

LowCel 

I have the candy's on one bike and the regular eggbeaters on another bike. They both release the same.

Stubacca

They should release at the same release angle as the regular EBs (assuming you've installed the cleats for the same release angle, either 15 or 20 degrees, on each pair of shoes).

How old are the cleats? Does it do this almost-zero-degree-release-angle on both left and right pedals?

AusTai

I haven't tried both shoes to be honest. It was at the end of the day and I didn't have a chance to get on the road with the new pedals so I just tried it in the garage. The cleats aren't the old, and hardly used - under 100 miles in optimal riding conditions (not wet or muddy). I think they're set for the 20 degree release angle.

Could it be my shoes? They're Shimano MTB shoes, also relatively new.

Stubacca

Perhaps the cleat isn't actually fully engaging the pedal. If I were you, I'd either try your road shoes on the Candys and see what happens, or install the black plastic spacers that come with the EB cleats. Maybe the tread blocks on the MTB shoes are too high and causing some interference - I needed the spacers on my old Specialized shoes, but not with Sidis. Not sure if they're typically required with Shimano shoes.

skyfish

I have both Eggbeater C and ATAC XS (not XE, but not much difference). The ATAC is definitely easier to engage/disengage.

FF 6800

i have mallet m's on one bike, and egg beaters on another and both release the same... or close to it
my mallets are about 5 months newer

AusTai

I think you're right. When I first tried to engage the pedals, I had to press really, really hard. The thread blocks on my shoes must be pressed hard against the platform of the Candys, as you suggest. I'll put on the spacers. Thanks!

klondike300

Some shoes that have deeper recesses cause some interferences between the cleat and shoe. The eggbeater cleats are generally shallower than SPD's. On my pair of commuter shoes, I had to add two thin washers between the shoe and cleat. Cost about 25 cents and the hardware store for some nice stainless washers. My other two shoes have no clearance problems.

Peek the Geek

I use Candy pedals, and I had to grind down the rubber soles of my shoes a bit to get rid of interference between the shoe and the pedal platform. It's a very common issue with the Candys, so much so that it is even mentioned on the Crank Bros web site and in the instructions that come with the pedals. Ideally, you want a little contact to occur between the sole and the platform, but not so much that it effects clipping in and out.

AusTai

Is grinding down the shoes better than using shims to extend the cleats? The Candys come with 2 shims and I sent an email to Crank Brothers to get some more, just in case.

klondike300

Just shim the cleats. Much easier than grinding out a bunch of rubber unless your tunnel for the cleats is too narrow. If you put too many shims in , you'll just grind them up walking on them. Just enough shims to click in and out smoothly.

Stubacca

I'd go with the shims. I used shims on my first and second set of cleats. For the third set I didn't need them - by then the shoes had worn down enough to not need them.

willtsmith_nwi

Yes be very careful when grinding. You need to look VERY closely were the contact points are and grind just there. It's like a dentist installing a white filling. It will probably take more than one try to get right.

Remember that you DO want the cleat recessed as far as possible.

Peek the Geek

Try just using the shims first. In some cases, though (depending on the shoe), it might not be enough. I personally had to use the shims AND grind my soles a bit. But the shoes I'm using are Shimano "recreational" type shoes with full treaded soles and recessed cleats. YMMV

AusTai

I hope the Candys are worth this effort over the Eggbeaters without the platforms. I have non-platform Eggbeaters on my mtn bike and the Candys will be for the road bike, where I tend to ride longer at a stretch and hotspots would be more of a problem. Does that make sense or should it be the other way around?

BTW, Speedplay X cleats cannot handle mud at all. duh!

Peek the Geek

If the soles of your road shoes are stiff enough, it won't make much difference one way or the other.