Back pain, what am I doing wrong?
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Back pain, what am I doing wrong?
I have a lot of back pain after biking, and during biking. When I bike, I usually get pain in my lower back, and later I get it between my shoulder blades. The lower back pain goes away after 30 minutes of not riding, but the pain between my shoulders stays for hours and hours.
What am I doing wrong? How could I adjust my bike so that it doesn't bother me as much?
What am I doing wrong? How could I adjust my bike so that it doesn't bother me as much?
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are you on a full suspension? the same thing use to happen to me when I rode my hardtail with a 3L camelbak. After a while I think the muscles got stronger and I only had a little discomfort in my lower back.
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Originally Posted by The Selector
are you on a full suspension? the same thing use to happen to me when I rode my hardtail with a 3L camelbak
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I ride a Hardtail, a Trek Bruiser 2. There's a pic in my Signature("My baby"). I don't have a camel back either. I'm 17, 5'9" and I weight roughly 160 lbs
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You should do some workouts for your lower back as well as strenghtening your core with a stability ball. Pain in your upper back? I think you just need to build some muscle there ;-)
I wouldn't know what kind of workouts to do, but I do squats atleast 2 times a week, usually 3 and I stretch for about 10-15 mins a day. I've never had lower back pains though. Are you hunched over less than 90*? And by less than 90* I mean relative to your thighs when your cranks are horizontal to the ground.Your riding position might be too aggressive.
*edit* The selector has a very good point.
I wouldn't know what kind of workouts to do, but I do squats atleast 2 times a week, usually 3 and I stretch for about 10-15 mins a day. I've never had lower back pains though. Are you hunched over less than 90*? And by less than 90* I mean relative to your thighs when your cranks are horizontal to the ground.Your riding position might be too aggressive.
*edit* The selector has a very good point.
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Originally Posted by mcoine
yeah get a sissy bike with fs, then you don't have to build any muscles to prevent back pain.
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Originally Posted by The Selector
what are you like 15 or something? I could crush you in one hand
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Originally Posted by The Selector
how long have you been riding?
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I would go to the shop where you bought the bike, ask them to fit the bike to you, get up off the seat when you hit bumps, and get a book on stretching and strength training. plus ride your bike more, after they fit it to you. I know it took me some time to get use to riding after I hadn't been for so long. I would have sore shoulders and a little back pain and be completely exhausted after a 8-10 hour ride, but after a few thousand miles (1.5 months) my muscles got stronger and I wasn't exhausted after riding. all this on a hardtail.
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Upper back and neck pain can result from having too much weight on your hands. Sometimes lowering your seat slightly will put more weight toward the rear of your bike, relieving some pressure on your arms, neck and upper back. Whatever you do, change things slowly (millimeters, not inches).
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Originally Posted by mcoine
go see a chiropractor
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
A VERY BAD IDEA!!! Go to see a DOCTOR!!! Trust me on this.
Except the chiropractic comment. No point in getting your back adjusted/cracked/destroyed without any scientific basis whatsoever. I know some people swear by chiro, but let's think: Is it really fixing it if you have to go back once a week to 'readjust', and you never get better, and are never properly told how to get better? NO! Are they bringing you back a lot to make money maybe...in some weird caplitalist ploy that they somehow fit into their care for only you? YES!
If the problem doesn't clear with some strengthening and making sure your frame measurements fit your body, then you'd be WAY WAY better set to see a physiotherapist. They know their muscles.
Oh, and have a pint after you ride. That always helps the sore.
-RotD
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Originally Posted by RageoftheDragon
Except the chiropractic comment. No point in getting your back adjusted/cracked/destroyed without any scientific basis whatsoever. I know some people swear by chiro, but let's think: Is it really fixing it if you have to go back once a week to 'readjust', and you never get better, and are never properly told how to get better? NO! Are they bringing you back a lot to make money maybe...in some weird caplitalist ploy that they somehow fit into their care for only you? YES!
If the problem doesn't clear with some strengthening and making sure your frame measurements fit your body, then you'd be WAY WAY better set to see a physiotherapist. They know their muscles.
If the problem doesn't clear with some strengthening and making sure your frame measurements fit your body, then you'd be WAY WAY better set to see a physiotherapist. They know their muscles.
Just to bring in the other side, my personal experience, a physio misdiagnosed my back problem and gave me some exercises that made it worse. A chiropractor sorted me out, and though I was going to see him every couple of weeks at first, a year later I'm now on every four months and the next visit will probably be my last.
Having said that, I wouldn't go to any alternative medical person I didn't have personally recommended to me.
Best advice so far this thread: build core strength with a gym-ball. Even sitting on it watching TV (with your feet off the ground if you can) did a lot of good for my back.
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Originally Posted by BryanW
Just to bring in the other side, my personal experience, a physio misdiagnosed my back problem and gave me some exercises that made it worse. A chiropractor sorted me out, and though I was going to see him every couple of weeks at first, a year later I'm now on every four months and the next visit will probably be my last.
Having said that, I wouldn't go to any alternative medical person I didn't have personally recommended to me.
Best advice so far this thread: build core strength with a gym-ball. Even sitting on it watching TV (with your feet off the ground if you can) did a lot of good for my back.
Having said that, I wouldn't go to any alternative medical person I didn't have personally recommended to me.
Best advice so far this thread: build core strength with a gym-ball. Even sitting on it watching TV (with your feet off the ground if you can) did a lot of good for my back.
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I ended up having an SI joint injury in my lower back. Pain in the lowerback as well as up in the sholder blade but only on one side. It was first diagnosed as a bulging disk. I didn't have pain while riding but when I got off my bike I could hardly walk sometimes. Electrical treatments to the muscles surrounding the joint, and cold rub, seems to have done the trick. Deep release rubbing on the muscle tissues hurt while being treated but felt awesome afterwards. I absolutely would not let them do adjustments, no way Jose. Core training is recommended as well, as it will help keep your spine aligned properly. A good riding position is key.
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Experiment tweaking your bike. Change one thing at a time, see if it has any effect over a few rides. If not, try changing something else.
Example: I had horrible neck pain while riding which led to migranes. I put some spacers on my stem to raise the angle of my handlebars. It allowed me to sit a little more upright (less aggressive). My neck pain went away very quickly. There was now little stress on my neck, trying to look up while riding.
Perhaps your bike is too long for you, you're stretching too much to get to the handle bars (as an example). Or perhaps your bike is too small and you're cramped on it. Etc.
Good advice earlier in the a post, go to your LBS and have them help fit the bike to you.
Good luck.
Example: I had horrible neck pain while riding which led to migranes. I put some spacers on my stem to raise the angle of my handlebars. It allowed me to sit a little more upright (less aggressive). My neck pain went away very quickly. There was now little stress on my neck, trying to look up while riding.
Perhaps your bike is too long for you, you're stretching too much to get to the handle bars (as an example). Or perhaps your bike is too small and you're cramped on it. Etc.
Good advice earlier in the a post, go to your LBS and have them help fit the bike to you.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Having a few herniated discs in my lower back , I speak from expirence . I've been misdiagnosed by both doctor and chiro before the doctor ordered a MRI. This showed the problem , and would never have been fixed by a Chiropractor/Witchdoctor. I didn't need surjury , Just some shots into the spine (very painful) but they did the trick . I beg of you, DON'T LET THE CHIROPRACTOR TOUCH YOUR BACK . I would try rest and a Massage Therapist/Physical Therapist first to determine if it's a muscle problem . The Doctor I went to thought it was Back Spasms , the Chiro/Witchdoctor just started "adjusting" things , and did more harm than good .
But the main way I got better wasn't from being "cracked" on a table or any other quick-fix, it was by following the exercises and advice he gave me, which included the gym-ball. If you have a weakness in your back (and lots of people do, especially taller people, because we weren't really designed to be bipeds) then the best way for a long-term fix is to strengthen the core muscles around the spine. And even if your problem is more serious, no harm will come of trying this route first (as long as the exercises are appropriate and you do them properly). Given the cost of other treatment, it makes financial sense too.
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Originally Posted by BryanW
But the main way I got better wasn't from being "cracked" on a table or any other quick-fix, it was by following the exercises and advice he gave me, which included the gym-ball. If you have a weakness in your back (and lots of people do, especially taller people, because we weren't really designed to be bipeds) then the best way for a long-term fix is to strengthen the core muscles around the spine. And even if your problem is more serious, no harm will come of trying this route first (as long as the exercises are appropriate and you do them properly). Given the cost of other treatment, it makes financial sense too.
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Originally Posted by free_pizza
Thats what a Physiotherapist's job is.
But anyway, the OP's problem is probably just as much down to bike fit, which is what he should get right first.