blue_neon

How do they compare? I think they retail around the same price (?). I've read a few reviews on the Deores and they dont seem like such a bad brake, however a pro for the Hayes is that it might be easier to get parts for it say pads etc more then Shimano.

Who has used these brakes? Any pro's/con's to the two?

born2bahick

I wasn't aware they were in the same price class, I had three set's of deore hydros,Excellent stopping power, not one problem ever!
my only complaint would be that they are heavier than most. never tried the hayes hydro's. most people who use them seem to say good things.

Drunken Chicken

I've tried Shimano Deore brakes for extended periods of time (several hours, actually) and they perform pretty damn well, they have decent modulation and good stopping power, even with 1 finger.
Haven't used the Hayes so I can't really say anything about them.

PA28Scuderia

Although i haven't used the shimano's i have the hfx9 xc and they are great, pretty easy to set up and i bled them fine myself for the first time. they stop great; i now make sure i shift my weight far back during heavy braking, haha.

GGDub

I have Deore's, they started out great (and still are miles better than V's) but about 6 months ago my stopping power went downhill. Had them bled, checked the pads and I'm still scratching my head. Now I'm drooling over some juicy 7's and thinking of throwing the Deore's on my SS.

The Great Stonk

having worked on both, when new and after many miles... the hayes hands down.

GGDub - a common problem ive noticed with deore hydo's that have been used for a while are the seals, give each leave a good squeeze in turn while watching the join between the 2 calipre halves, look for any fluid welling up through the join. also - if both your brakes are suffering, if their still using the original pads, they may simply be contaminated, in which case all you can do is replace them.

blue_neon

Thinking in the long term, if something went wrong with the Deore's then would it be easier to get replacement parts for it? I havn't seen a lot of stuff for them, however Hayes have a HUGE range of easily accessable replacement pads etc. I guess I have to consider that aswell.

Then comes the stupid question, it wouldn't be worth taking either of those brakes off and replacing them with Avid BB7's would it?

zx108

i have used shimano xt discs. i liked them a lot. they lever feel was great and the stopping power was ok, but i could not stop as fast as i can with the hayes i have on my bike now. shimano doesnt use dot fluid, i dont know if that is a plus or minus.

the hayes have a nice lever feel, not as nice as the xts though. the hayes scrap a little bit and make a slight 'organic' scraping sound. the hayes are really nice brakes, if you set them up good they can stop on a dime.

hayes for power, shimano for feel.

Drunken Chicken

My friend is actually in the same dilemma right now, we went to the LBS, my fav. worker there reccomended the Deore's (better lever feel, he said). He runs them on his Kona Coiler Deelux (upgraded, expensive) and he has two friends who run Deore's on 3000 and 4000 euro bikes.

blitz993

I have Hayes 9 with 6" mudcutters and they are great. Most complaints are that they are difficult to adjust. But if you take your time and set them up right they definitely stop you, I have had no problems to date.

marcrides

I have the hayes. They have a very nice feel and very good stopping power. However, the one big complaint and it is starting to annoy me, is that they have huge rotor rub issues. LBS couldn't get rid of it. I've heard it's a common issue with Hayes..having to do with the pistons on the calipers. Truthfully, I don't notice is so much on the trail, but if lift the rear wheel and spin it with your hand, it stops within a rotation or 2.

Why not avids? I hear they have a super good feel. I'm looking into them or the XT's

zx108

you can get rid of it. it takes alot of trys though. push the piston all the way back in the caliper and then put them back on, yadda yadda yadda it should make it rub considerably less.