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Old 03-01-06, 04:35 PM   #1
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Are there any benefits going with XTR V-Brakes over Avid BB7s?

I'm just asking as both setups are about 200$ (give or take), I'm just wondering, what do you get by going with XTR V-Brakes over BB7s? I'm thinking weight is one but maybe XTR Vs have more braking power or something, I'm at loss here, if someone can enlight me.

P.S: not that I'm going to do it, just asking out of curiosity.
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Old 03-01-06, 04:39 PM   #2
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Weight.

Other than that...

... Less wheel dish?.. unless you already have disk hubs.. I'm really reaching here.
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If you chose the V brakes over the discs, you could then take a stance as a retro grouch - weight weenie and can carry on and on and on about how disc brakes are unnecessary and just another way for 'Big Bike' to force people to upgrade to components they don't need. You can tell stories about how 'v brakes' worked for years and that v brakes modulate just as well as mechanical discs. You can explain that the reason people feel v brakes don't modulate as well is because they don't know how to set them up or brake correctly. You can regale the youngens with tales on how their frames will snap with discs and that the hubs were never meant to take the type of torque that discs provide....oh yeah, they weigh less too.

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If you chose the V brakes over the discs, you could then take a stance as a retro grouch - weight weenie and can carry on and on and on about how disc brakes are unnecessary and just another way for 'Big Bike' to force people to upgrade to components they don't need. You can tell stories about how 'v brakes' worked for years and that v brakes modulate just as well as mechanical discs. You can explain that the reason people feel v brakes don't modulate as well is because they don't know how to set them up or brake correctly. You can regale the youngens with tales on how their frames will snap with discs and that the hubs were never meant to take the type of torque that discs provide....oh yeah, they weigh less too.

Yeah, but no self-respecting retrogrouch would use V-brakes when cantis are still available.
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the XTR Vs are lighter but BB7 are better for stopping, I have both and I found XTR horrible...infact, at that price, I will think about Magura Hydro rim brakes like HS33 or HS##
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The XTR's I have are not much if any lighter than the BB7 setup, The Avid ultimate V's have the sealed bearings like the XTR's but save considerable weight by not having all the extra moving parts that the XTR's have. I love the XTR V's, but weight between them and BB7's can't be that much. Wonder if someone has a gram scale that can check it out for us?
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I guess I am one of those guys. I have my xt v-brakes/shifters from 1997 and they are still in flawless working condition. Of course, back then their stuff was built waaaay better than todays shimano line. Discs are cool and have some small benefits but they are an industry forced necessity for a problem that didn't exist imo. My v's have more stopping power than I could hope for and modulate beautifully and smoothly. But, that's not to say one shouldn't go disc. I just personally won't go disc until my v-brakes fail me, or I destroy them crashing as I so often do. Then I'll get bb7s or maybe even hydro's.
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Discs are cool and have some small benefits but they are an industry forced necessity for a problem that didn't exist imo.
A decent set of disc brakes have much better modualtion than XTR Vs, perform consistently in the wet/mud, unlike XTR Vs, perform consistently on long hot descents, unlike XTR Vs and discs aren't affected by rim truing issues, unlike XTR Vs.
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