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    Need Brighter bike light

    I got the cateye EL500 which i think is a good light but its not bright enough for trail IMO. What do you think is a good light for trail use so i can comfortably ride fast at night?

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    you'll want to get a helmet mounted HID light . I like Nite Rider but opinions vary.

    HID's are expensive but worth it in my opinion.


    2 lights are a great setup but it begins to get really pricey. One on the helmet and one on the bars.

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    How much do you have to spend?

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    Or if you want the best, and are not concerned with price at all check out lupine lighting systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuspended
    Or if you want the best, and are not concerned with price at all check out lupine lighting systems.
    Or you could get three Trail Rats (one for you head and two for the handlebars), extra batteries to convert to a 12 V system, 20W 12V bulbs, helment mount and still have enough left over for about half of a good hardtail.

    All kidding aside, depending on what you want to do, getting 2 or 3 Niterider Trail Rats, which are good economical lights, would be a good place to start. Much better light than the Cateye. And you might just continue to be married when you're done
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute
    Or you could get three Trail Rats (one for you head and two for the handlebars), extra batteries to convert to a 12 V system, 20W 12V bulbs, helment mount and still have enough left over for about half of a good hardtail.

    All kidding aside, depending on what you want to do, getting 2 or 3 Niterider Trail Rats, which are good economical lights, would be a good place to start. Much better light than the Cateye. And you might just continue to be married when you're done

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    It's kind of pricey ($499 - $599, depending on where you buy it), but its an amazing light:

    ARC Li-Ion Ultra

    I'd pretty much reccommend anything from Light & Motion

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    Trail Tech HID from Battery Space. Cheap and good enough. It uses the EXACT same lamp as every other HID light. The only difference is the battery, cables and switches. Users report that these work great. $210-$230 for 4-5 hour run times.


    http://www.batteryspace.com/index.as...OD&ProdID=2395


    For a little more sophisticated packaging try a Niterider storm at Pricepoint for $300

    http://pricepoint.com/detail/13820-2...-HID-Light.htm

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    I just cant see paying HID prices.. and have no problems seeing just fine with a 13v turbo cat system that puts two on the bars and a 6v helmet light.. for far cheaper than a HID system... plus bulb replacement is not as bad either..

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    if you are ubercheap like me, you can make your own
    http://www.bikelight.blogspot.com/
    the instructions are pretty thorough
    i seemed to do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by smakusdod
    It's kind of pricey ($499 - $599, depending on where you buy it), but its an amazing light:

    ARC Li-Ion Ultra

    I'd pretty much reccommend anything from Light & Motion
    +1
    I am happy with my set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGoat
    I just cant see paying HID prices.. and have no problems seeing just fine with a 13v turbo cat system that puts two on the bars and a 6v helmet light.. for far cheaper than a HID system... plus bulb replacement is not as bad either..
    There are plenty of higher priced HID's for sure, but the Cygolight can be had for under $250 so can the Battery Space light. You can get four hours out of the Cygolight.

    Not that you need one.
    The bulbs don't really wear out as fast as people think. The bulb thing is not a problem. It's a misconception from reading the specs and thinking it's worse than it is. The bulbs are as tough or tougher than a halogen in an accident.
    There have been halogen lights as bright as HID for more than a decade, but they don't have the run time. Not everyone needs the run time. If one knows they don't need it then it's a waste.

    It's just that if you need the power and the run time,the HID allows for a lot less battery capacity. When I bought my new HID there were no halogens that would run that long with that much power on the market. Unless I bought more batteries to bring along. There still are no halogens on the market that will give me the run time I want and the power, no such thing.

    Hopefully, someone in the market for a new light would look at the "light selection guide" thread and not buy any more light than they need. Although it's good to buy a little more than you think you need to be on the safe side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smakusdod
    It's kind of pricey ($499 - $599, depending on where you buy it), but its an amazing light:

    ARC Li-Ion Ultra

    I'd pretty much reccommend anything from Light & Motion
    Ditto, but I lucked out and got a very good deal on hid. I doubt I would have bought it if I had had to pay the full 800cdn

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    I ran two of these of these on the bars, plus a third light on my helmet during my last 12-hour race. These were great, and really cheap - however, IMO the most important light is the one on your helmet, because it's always aimed where you're looking. The bar lights are great for additional light when going straight, but in tight singletrack they'll be aimed the wrong way a lot of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    NO NO..the marriage went first, the Lupine was later..........

    So, is the Lupine better to sleep with on a cold night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute
    So, is the Lupine better to sleep with on a cold night?



    25 points for cyccommute !!
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