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Old 03-10-06, 08:30 PM   #1
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old bomber -OR- new axel super?

I'm going to the LBS later today, and I still haven't made up my mind. They have these 2 forks that are about the same price: an old Marzocchi bomber (not sure which year, it has I guess 80mm or less of travel, 2 preload adjusters, and 1 small rebound adjuster in the center of one of the preload knobs; the arch is bolted on the front, not like the single-piece molded ones today, and the word "bomber" is written in cursive form on the sides. There's a sticker/plate on the back that reads "made in Italy", and the fork legs are in red color. The other fork choice is a 2006 Manitou Axel Super, with preload and rebound adjuster (on the underside of one leg). Which fork would be more worthwhile to buy? Hope you guys can give some advice. Thanks.
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i wouldnt trust buying a used fork, but thats just me.
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i wouldnt trust buying a used fork, but thats just me.
Oops, sorry. I forgot to put in my post--both forks are new, except the Bomber is an old model.
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oh, okay
then i change my mind, buy the bomber. I dont trust manitou forks.
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Old 03-10-06, 08:52 PM   #5
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then i change my mind, buy the bomber. I dont trust manitou forks.
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Thanks! That's what I was thinking too. I tried compressing both forks (just on the ground), and the older bomber felt better, even though it didn't have as much travel as the new Axel. It looks retro too, because of the bolt-on arch.
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Get the Marzocchi.
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Get a NEW bomber.
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Buy them both, send me the Marzocchi internals so I can resurect my Z2. My adjuster knobs snapped off and they ( Marzocchi) don't carry them any more... hand 'em over!
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Even though the Marzocchi is probably eight years old, it's still head and shoulders above the Axel. If it's new but old stock, and the travel (72mm) is acceptable to you, get the bomber.
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Yes, I agree. My Z2 Bomber is hanging on a wall in my garage, doing nothing because I can't find a way to fix the adjustments. Every time I see it I get annoyed, It is a great shock but realize you most likely will not be able to get parts to fix it when/if it ever breaks.
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Yeah, I own an Axel and I, reluctantly, agree. I would trade for a Marzocchi Bomber in a minute. By the way. If you do go with a Manitou, be aware that the original spring in the Axel is probably 'soft'. Manitou sells a 'heavy duty' spring replacement. I had one installed on my new Splice before I purchased the bike. It made a huge difference.
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How many of you guys have experience with 8 year old bombers? I thought the fork sounded like 4 years or so, but if it's 8 years old I don't think it's a worth while purchase. Try and find out what year it is first. If Svr is right and it's 8 years old, even the best suspension forks from then will be equivalent to low end forks now.
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The Bomber sounds like its from around 99-01. It will be a strong fork, but still it is old, a Swifferman said, there have been huge advances in fork technology. Personally, I have nothing against Manitou's, it will not be as strong, but should perform better. Also if you ever have trouble with the Marzocchi, you will not be able to get internals for it. If you are not going to be riding the forks harshly Iwould get the Manitou, if you are an aggresive rider then maybe get the Marzocchi.

Also the bounce on the fork test is a bad way to choose forks. The marzocchi will always feel plusher compared to its equivalent fork. It is just how they are, the onlything the bounce test can do is help you set-up preload and see if the travel is linear or progressive.
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Thanks for all your replies. I had to give up the Bomber, the disk brake tabs wouldn't take my BB7's Instead I got the Axel, and on first ride I did notice that it was a little "soft". Anyway that's fine with me, I'm only 160lbs., and not an aggressive rider. At least it's a far cry from my old RST
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I like my bomber. I bought it new in 99 I think. It's been through a couple of frames and lots of miles. The only feature that I wish it had is a lockout. I need to get it rebuilt but I'm still debating if it's worth it or if I should put that money towards a new fork, the problem is that there aren't many 80mm models available these days.
It's sounds like you've made your decision though.
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I forgot about that. The BB7 do NOT fit, that annoyed the hell out of me.
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I forgot about that. The BB7 do NOT fit, that annoyed the hell out of me.
Yup. The guy at the lbs said it MIGHT accept Hope brakes, but he wasn't too sure.
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