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Old 03-30-06, 12:08 AM   #1
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Whats the Shimano 'equivalent' of SRAM X-7 again?

What was the Shimano equivalent of Sram X-7?

Was it around XT, or maybe just LX? And if you had the choice of XT or Sram X-7 what would it be?

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Old 03-30-06, 12:11 AM   #2
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Marketting-wise, X-7 = LX, X-9 = XT and X-0 = XTR but I'm not sure you can really make that absolute comparison from a real-world standpoint.
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lx is better than x7
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I think it's...
X7 = LX
X9 = XT
X0 = XTR

Haven't used Sram yet, so I can't say which I like more.
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The thing that gets me wonder is, is LX better then XT? Cause updated LX is released on the year 2005 while XT is 2004 so there is sure to be improvement.
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The thing that gets me wonder is, is LX better then XT? Cause updated LX is released on the year 2005 while XT is 2004 so there is sure to be improvement.
You have discovered one of the tiny secrets (okay so it's not really a secret) in Shimano's marketting strategy. Shimano does indeed tend to introduce some new features below the traditional trickle-down direction of flow. While they might tend to introduce "race-level" performance features at XTR, they many times introduce the "convenience features" at the LX level. Take for instance the optical gear displays which in the mid-90s appeared in LX and then eventually moved up to XT and XTR. Now of course this begs the question of whether those convenience features are truly needed/wanted but then again one could easily ask the same of some of the race-features.

So basically you have to ask yourself what you would consider to be "better". New features doesn't exactly mean better. Shimano has introduced electronically controlled shocks and shifting in their comfort lineup. This can be considered advanced cycling technology but is it needed/desired or appropriate for MTBing? Would it be considered better or an improvement over XT components? Sometimes, just updating components is simply marketting.
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Old 03-30-06, 01:34 AM   #7
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Hmm, I guess you are correct, LX DC shifter is lighter then XT DC shifter this maybe is caused of the 1 year difference, but If im buying shifter pods I will stick to you guys advice which is to buy XT cause the shifting is more crispier, I wonder how does it feel if I use a XT Shifter Pod with a LX Rd?
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I run an XT derailleur and an LX shifter pod. I love it and fine it very crisp. That is what the guy that runs the United Bicycle Institute reccomended over XT derailleur and XT shifter pod. He said there's very little performance increase with running an XT shifter pod over LX.
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x7 better than lx

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bull ... ESP 1:1 stays in adjustment WAY better than LX. On the flip side though, I would take Shimano LX cranks over the Truvative (SRAM) equivalent.

AND, X.0 is something a little off the charts when you compare it to XTR.
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lx is better than x7
you are the first and only person I've ever heard say that. I've ridden both 2005 lx and 2005 x7 extensively and the x7 is hands down the better performer.
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Yeh I would have thought the X7 would be better then LX, especially with the 1:1 shifting.
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bull ... ESP 1:1 stays in adjustment WAY better than LX.
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ESP 1:1 is only apply for riders who rides at conditions that are wet and etc. If you ride during dry days there are hardly any difference
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ESP 1:1 is only apply for riders who rides at conditions that are wet and etc. If you ride during dry days there are hardly any difference
Eh? It's a matter of mechanics. Shimano's 2:1 (or 1:2 depending on which way you look at it) actuation ratio means that not only can contamination result in poor shifting but essentially any slight error in adjustment will get amplified in derailleur positioning. The bottom line is that Shimano shifting is more finicky and less tolerant of maladjustments than SRAM. This is not to say that a properly tuned Shimano system won't perform on par with a SRAM setup but it does mean that more attention has to be paid to properly adjusting it for optimum performance.
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Hmm I was thinking of going SRAM, or just upgrading to XT. I've always wanted to try SRAM, and I was stunned by its X9 shifting. However I would have enough money to go to X9 (since i have to by shifters etc), so i was thinking maybe X-7? It would be a lot cheaper to go to Shimano XT, but would there be any advantage going to X-7 instead?

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Go SRAM for shifting ...

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Hmm I was thinking of going SRAM, or just upgrading to XT. I've always wanted to try SRAM, and I was stunned by its X9 shifting. However I would have enough money to go to X9 (since i have to by shifters etc), so i was thinking maybe X-7? It would be a lot cheaper to go to Shimano XT, but would there be any advantage going to X-7 instead?

There is an advantage of going to SRAM X-7 instead of XT. You get 1:1 cable acutation which is easier to keep in tune. But the X-9 stuff is better.

BTW, if you are on 8 speed, you'll be forced to buy an X-7 shifter. You can still use an X-9 derailleur though (or X-0 for that matter).
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ok i suggest you to wait till end of this year when the new SRAM comes in cause I heard that the X.9 has been design like the X.0 without the carbon and the current X.9 will be relabelled as X.7 ^^
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