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Old 04-01-06, 09:54 AM   #1
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Looking to get started..advice would be appreciated.

hey guys, im looking to get started with mountain biking... and i have about 200 bucks to spend. And so far this is what i found

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...=1143905531634

Would that be a decent bike to get started on...and my friend could hook me up with a new fork...bbut if i do get a new fork chances are that it will be for a 26 inch wheel. would that be messed up if i had 24" in the back and 26" in the front.

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PS this is my first post soo ....

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Old 04-01-06, 10:22 AM   #2
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I would suggest you get at the very least an extra 50 bucks and look at the Trek 820 or Giant Boulder SE Men (or something like that), x-mart bikes are no good and you'll want to get a bike from a good brand, The Trek 820 and Boulder SE Men are great budget begginer bikes but if you get any serious into MTBing you'll replace them pretty fast so you might want to look at 400-500$ price range.

Besides if I'm reading right thats a 24" frame! I wouldn't suggest that to anyone who isn't a giant, remember for begginners it doesn't really matter the quality of the components but the fit of the bike, go to an LBS near you, ride a few bikes and get the most comfortable as the components on them at the 200-300$ will most likely be the same in quality (if not literally the exact same).
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Old 04-01-06, 10:29 AM   #3
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hey youre reading it right but the site is messed up... Its named Hyper IMpact 2.4 with 24" Tires. NOt frame..i wont be doing any rough stuff. And whats LBS? I live in mississauga, ontario. Only bike store aruond me is cyclpath. and theres no way they have 200 dollar bikes. Are there anymore bikes like this? oh and i really like the design of this frame.
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Old 04-01-06, 12:37 PM   #4
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Isn't that more of a DJ bike? Is that what you're looking for? One thing to note is just because two frames may LOOK the same it does not mean they ARE the same. If you only have $200 for now it might be worth it to save up a little more and see what the LBS has. Or you could look around for something lightly used. You can often get a great deal on used bikes.

I think it says 24" frame because department store bikes don't come in different sizes correct? I think the size it gives is usually just for tire size.
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Old 04-01-06, 12:46 PM   #5
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take your time and find a used bike that was hardly used. resale sucks on bikes. you can probably spend 200 on a bike someone paid 500-600 for and just doesn't use anymore. they'll probably just want to unload it and they could be desperate for money. look for 300 dollar used ones and offer 200!
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Old 04-01-06, 01:51 PM   #6
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I ve tried that. some guy says he paid 700 for a tribal quantum, which used to go for 300 at sportmart. BUt he said he upgraded the tires and brake wires or sothing. He put the price for 300 i asked for lower and hes never responded.

WHats LBS Though...also would that hyper bike be alrigth for trails and stuff...with and without jumps?
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Old 04-01-06, 02:00 PM   #7
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LBS= local bike shop.

That bike would be distinctly ill-suited for riding on trails. the general consensus here is that you should instead try to find a used bike from a respectable manufacturer such as any of the following.
trek
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giant
kona
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Old 04-01-06, 02:11 PM   #8
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so whats wrong with Hypers?
Would this be better hahha?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...=1143922289563
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Old 04-01-06, 03:25 PM   #9
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i cant really look at those links.. i live in the states lol
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Type in the example zip code and it'll load a cookie. Click the link on the forums again and it'll take you right to the $200 dual suspension bike. I woudn't suggest a dual suspension at that price. Stick with a hardtail. A used one, at your price range. Keep looking- surely there's more people selling a used bike than that one guy where you live.

As for what's wrong with the bike, it's not strong enough for much more than sidewalk riding. It's heavy, esp the full suspension models. It's weak because it's made out of low quality aluminum, the components leave much to be desired, and the wheels are not strong enough for much more than dropping off a curb.
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look.

Hey but is anythign wrong with the Hyper Impact??im thinking of getting that and putting on a fork from the hooligan.(same one from 'tire) I know you guys will hate it...but i just dont have as much money as you guys do...=(

but this is how it would look like

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It seems that you have already made up your mind. Buy it and post your results after a month of riding .
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dude, hold out for a little bit, spend a few hundred on lke a low end specialized hardrock or seomthing like a kona scrap...etc...they are like 400-600us i think? round 600ish CAD...

canadian tire bike not gonna do u any good in the long run, and u obvuiosly live in canada somewhere...if u live in toronto, there are tons of bike shops jsut go in, lots of time they have last years models on sale.....i paid bout 500 for my 04 hardrock...and im poor as balls still, but i put some new stuff on it and tis great...

take the time and invest your money into something worth it.
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Old 04-02-06, 02:05 AM   #14
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Yea, man, the Impact is not the right bike for cross country. That's more of an urban jumping bike. It's not going to be very efficient for pedalling on trails, which means that you'll likely work a lot harder than your friends with XC style bikes. See the chainrings? There's only one ring in a low gear. You won't be able to go very fast with those, though climbs shouldn't be a huge problem. The fork is iffy-I have no idea what it is. It may or may not be strong enough to take a beating on a bonafide trail. It won't be very adjustable, if at all, and it might not have damping. The frame's shape is built like a tank, but the steel is "high tensile steel" which is low quality.

Well, there you have it. I'd suggest that you save up some more and buy a really good beginner's bike that'll last you many many years instead of something like this which will be run down in a year or two and may break and hurt you in the process. There's only one size of frame. If you're not the perfect height for it, you'll have to bodge the fit. A bike shop can fit you on the exact right size frame.

Like Stretch says, go and call around bike shops. Ask for 05 models. Go used. Have patience and you'll get something good and something that will last and is safer.
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Old 04-02-06, 02:11 AM   #15
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Try out some second hand bikes, my friend is getting a Kona Stinky for $100 AU, so you may be able to find spmething fairly good for $200
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I'd suggest doing what others are saying and saving up a little more to get something quality for now. One size does not fit all in the bike realm and X-mart bikes are almost always one size. It's almost never worth going for a full-suspension under a grand USD. Personally I'd rather wait a little bit, save my money, and get something I knew I'd be happy with rather than spending almost as much and getting something I'll either break or be unhappy with within a couple of months. Specialized Hardrocks and Trek 4300s are both around $360 USD I believe and Giant also has some cheaper offerings. Gary Fisher is another good brand that has some cheaper bikes.
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You're all so vague.

NEVER buy a bike from a department store.

Read this:
http://www.bikesrnottoys.com/

Save your money and buy a real bike. Canadian tire sells mass made crap. They break after 2 weeks of riding, and the riding you do isn't even that fun on one.

Save your money until you have near 400, then go to a Local Bike Shop (LBS) and find something in that price range.

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Old 04-02-06, 08:16 AM   #18
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WEll guys i thinkill do that wait for a bit...check on pinkbike, but if nothing comes up ( i doubt this will happen) ill ask my parents if they could drive me to some bike shops in TO(im 14 and i cant drive and i live in mississauga). And if i dont get anythign well ill let you guys know how the hyper is doing. Hope it deoesnt come to that.

BTW WHat about a Tribal Qunatum with some"upgraded" parts. He says he bougth it for 500 buks at sportmart but i doubt it because last time i checked it was 300. heres the link to the posting.

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/166605/

SHould i just get this?
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oh yeah what does it mean if the seal is broken?
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Okay Kenneth, make sure you tell your parents that this bike will help give you an interest that will keep you healthy and in touch with the outdoors. When you get a job for the summer, you can help pay them back, and your hard earned money can go for bike upgrades, or maybe a really good quality mb, and not for beer and drugs, and all that crap. You've got to sell this to them. Every kid needs a hobby, something that will harness all that energy, and keep you on the right track.
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I ve got a hobby already.. Been playing bass for 3 years now. but this is for when i dont... so this quantum would be the bike instead of other ones? Good thing that guy lives in mississauga too.

ANd i have a job( paper route) its just that i cant use any of that money.

PS what does a blown seal mean though is it bad?
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PS what does a blown seal mean though is it bad?
It means that the Seal, the part that keeps the dirt from getting into the lowers, has blown up, and out of the lowers. The fork is screwed, and by the look of that picture, it's a really beat up bike. The derailleur and hanger doesn't look perfectly straight either. Keep looking .
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Here's a decent bike for the price:
http://www.gtbikes.com/mountain/cata...CAN&brand=moun

You could probably get it for around $500.

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Or check out the Trek 820. It goes for around 299.99.

http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike...d=1010600&f=20

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If you want to get into Dirt jumping or street, look into this:
http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike...d=1028000&f=16

It's the Trek Jack 1. It retails for 599.99. I went and saw one at my lbs a few weeks ago and was very surprised.
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