thought i would share this with my fellow bike forumites. just sold the klein attitude and packaged it up for shipping yesterday. took it to the ups store and they charged me $125 for shipping. it seems i used one of mine older bike boxes that is over 52 inches long. if i had used a 52 inch or shorter box the charge would have been $55. wow was i surprised! came home and checked the rates on ups website as i had a feeling the guy at the ups store was riping me off. nope. did two different quotes with same dimensions except one 52" long the other 53". that one inch relations to $70 more charge. keep this in mind when doing any shipping.