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Old 04-30-06, 04:06 PM   #1
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Old 04-30-06, 04:11 PM   #2
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Ask Ol'222. He's had a bunch of them.
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I think that their freeride forks leave something to be desired. I have an Nixon and so far its done pretty well.
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hmmm Based on my experience with their FR side

1 - they require to much maintenance to be worthwhile. Set and forget is more my style and most people I ride with
2 - Their seals are crap
3 - for some reason, their forks backup. Meaning eventually you loose travel. My 7in slider is down to 4 inches of travel. Yes I know it needs a rebuild but after 3 months of riding it started to crap out. Marzocchi last eons longer.
4 - their seals are crap (both on the shocks and the forks, they tend to leak...a lot and under very little influence)

Thei product is decent, but compared to marzocchi for freeride and dh...they are weak. They should have stuck with the TPC product and skipped this whole SPV generation. SPV doesn't belong on fr bike parts.
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hmmm Based on my experience with their FR side

1 - they require to much maintenance to be worthwhile. Set and forget is more my style and most people I ride with
2 - Their seals are crap
3 - for some reason, their forks backup. Meaning eventually you loose travel. My 7in slider is down to 4 inches of travel. Yes I know it needs a rebuild but after 3 months of riding it started to crap out. Marzocchi last eons longer.
4 - their seals are crap (both on the shocks and the forks, they tend to leak...a lot and under very little influence)

Thei product is decent, but compared to marzocchi for freeride and dh...they are weak. They should have stuck with the TPC product and skipped this whole SPV generation. SPV doesn't belong on fr bike parts.

Soooooo, how do you like their seals??
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Oh and don't get me started on the spv valving and how useless it is. Anti-bob = crap on small bumps. Obviously this is true, but when spv first came out the claim was the perfect anti-bob pro small bump sensativity.

Oh and lack of ACTUAL adjustment. Rebound, spv or otherwise. There isn't enough adjustment to make it worth while. 3 clicks on a marz requires 30 clicks on a manipoo...
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Soooooo, how do you like their seals??
About as much as I like a boat with a hole in it haha...

I even had the generation with the " better" seals...still sprung a leak...sheesh.
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On the cross country side, my skareb elite hasn't caused me any trouble. Last summer, I stripped the threads of the caliper mount. My lbs sent it to manitou for repairs, and they replaced the casting for free, and got it back like new in a week. Excellent service. Now, for an upgrade, I'm thinking about getting an R7, or "manipoo arse heaven" as some may like to call it .
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For some reson, I see Manitou as a street fork. Good Bounce to them.
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In my experience, Manitou XC forks are great (skareb super and R7 super) I've never used any of their long travel stuff, I trust Marzocchi way more, especially after seeing this post.
On a side note, I think the seals on my skareb super excellent quality.
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i have a skareb comp right now. it's not the best fork in the world, it's flexy, but it was free, and it got me out on the trail. it's the very basic model with only rebound ajust and that's really all i need. i've seen a couple that had the lockout option where the seals blew out and hydraulically locked the fork so it had zero travel. the thing i like about them is they're very good about replacing things under warranty, very fast, and usually very helpful on the phone.

my co-worker has an old carbon/ti dorado on his DH bike and loves that fork to death. he rides the hell out of that bike, and it's holding up just fine.

but...yeah, most of the manitou line is pretty bad. they definitely need too much maintenance.
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They aren't as bad as you'd think. I have a 2000 Mars super that was on a bike for 5 years of pounding. Never did anything to it, not even squirt grease into the microlube ports. Still dosen't leak, but I wanted more travel so I replaced it with a Minute 2:00. So far that fork has been great as well, definately not as plush over the smaller bumps as a Fox would be, but it has NO BOB. Once I got used to it I do kinda like it, on a X-country bike. SPV does not belong on freeride type bikes.
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Both are very simular, but i would probably go with Choice 2.
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Have you considered a non-Manitou fork? What about a second hand RockShox or Marzchochi off eBay then just paying $40 for a service on it?

http://listings.ebay.com.au/Mountain...istingItemList
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Oh and the Manitou Axel seems a good choice at that price if you wanted to go with them.
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That's what i thought, do you know of of an Australian Internet, bike shop that sells choice 1. Just out of curiosity.
Yes, VicMTB. http://www.vicmtb.com.au/store/components/manitou_06/
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They are pretty much identical as i said before, but i'd still go with the Trace Platinum. You'll save yourself $200 which you can put towards your good one.
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This one was a few days old:

They don't always snap:


2 weeks old:




Now, don't get me wrong, all forks snap or break eventually, it's just Manipoo do it a whole lot faster.
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This says it all:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05507.html
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Hmm, actually it makes a lot of sense, my friend Trek 6500's Manitou Axel is already broken and its barely a few months old, he doesn't put it through much abuse either, my RockShox Indy SL on the other hand has lasted 8 years and is still working and I expect my RockShox Tora to be just as reliable. Mani forks performance can vary though, some of their forks (like the Axel for example) aren't really that great performers while some of their XC forks like the Black Platinum are actually quite nice and very light.
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Hmm, actually it makes a lot of sense, my friend Trek 6500's Manitou Axel is already broken and its barely a few months old, he doesn't put it through much abuse either, my RockShox Indy SL on the other hand has lasted 8 years and is still working and I expect my RockShox Tora to be just as reliable. Mani forks performance can vary though, some of their forks (like the Axel for example) aren't really that great performers while some of their XC forks like the Black Platinum are actually quite nice and very light.
True, but a lot of them are really bad. I personally like their short travel dirt jumping forks.

My buddy across the river had a Manitou Sherman Firefly (one of their higher end freeride forks) and he snapped it by going off a curb, it scared the **** right out of him. It snapped in a weird place too, right in the middle of the left lower.
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I take it, manitou would not be a good choice even for a temp fork.
Meh, not really. You don't get anything out of your money with manitou. For a temporary fork, I'd rather rigid than manipoo.
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