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nitrogen canisters?
I have a nitrogen generator that I use to fill my car tires with compressed nitrogen. Before you guys get all wierd, I use compressed nitrogen for two reasons:
1) It doesnt contain moisture like compressed air, which can corrode rims
2) The pressure doesnt fluctuate with temperature as much as compressed air
I've seen the little compressed CO2 cartridges for filling bike tires, but CO2 pressure fluctuates a LOT with temp changes...moreso than regular compressed air. Have any of you seen small nitrogen containers for filling bike tires?
1) It doesnt contain moisture like compressed air, which can corrode rims
2) The pressure doesnt fluctuate with temperature as much as compressed air
I've seen the little compressed CO2 cartridges for filling bike tires, but CO2 pressure fluctuates a LOT with temp changes...moreso than regular compressed air. Have any of you seen small nitrogen containers for filling bike tires?
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Originally Posted by CrashVector
I have a nitrogen generator that I use to fill my car tires with compressed nitrogen. Before you guys get all wierd, I use compressed nitrogen for two reasons:
1) It doesnt contain moisture like compressed air, which can corrode rims
2) The pressure doesnt fluctuate with temperature as much as compressed air
I've seen the little compressed CO2 cartridges for filling bike tires, but CO2 pressure fluctuates a LOT with temp changes...moreso than regular compressed air. Have any of you seen small nitrogen containers for filling bike tires?
1) It doesnt contain moisture like compressed air, which can corrode rims
2) The pressure doesnt fluctuate with temperature as much as compressed air
I've seen the little compressed CO2 cartridges for filling bike tires, but CO2 pressure fluctuates a LOT with temp changes...moreso than regular compressed air. Have any of you seen small nitrogen containers for filling bike tires?
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Originally Posted by mx_599
no, sorry
Just use a pump. It still puts are that is almost all nitrogen in the tire.
By the way CrashVector, your nitrogen generator doesn't make nitrogen that is any drier than compressed air. It probably has a scrubber on it that removes the water. I've seen similar systems for provided dry air for instruments.
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Originally Posted by CrashVector
1) It doesnt contain moisture like compressed air, which can corrode rims
Originally Posted by CrashVector
2) The pressure doesnt fluctuate with temperature as much as compressed air
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Originally Posted by gastro
Just curious, how do you evacuate all the normal air and water vapor that's already in the tire when mounted but before inflation?
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Originally Posted by mx_599
you would have to fill and purge a few times until most would be gone.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Don't most tubes come 'empty'? At least all the ones I've ever bought were
besides, any residual air mixture would be pretty negligible when compared to the pressurized pure gas.
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This is a joke right?
Relevance of scale applies here. Yes its true N2 is almost inert…but truly, all of you that are having a problem with your wheels corroding from the inside please raise your hands. The only ones that have their hands up are running true Magnesium racing rims and every one else has steel that has been powder coated on the inside or alum alloy rimes that are anodized or plated.
The way you get high purity nitrogen is by fractional distillation of liquefied air.
In a bike tire, please.
On my Mtn bike I probably change the pressure four or five times per ride to optimize traction. On my road bike I let almost all the air out after every ride and then pump them up to 120 or so before every ride.
I call BS.
Relevance of scale applies here. Yes its true N2 is almost inert…but truly, all of you that are having a problem with your wheels corroding from the inside please raise your hands. The only ones that have their hands up are running true Magnesium racing rims and every one else has steel that has been powder coated on the inside or alum alloy rimes that are anodized or plated.
The way you get high purity nitrogen is by fractional distillation of liquefied air.
In a bike tire, please.
On my Mtn bike I probably change the pressure four or five times per ride to optimize traction. On my road bike I let almost all the air out after every ride and then pump them up to 120 or so before every ride.
I call BS.
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A shop around here has nitrogen tanks for filling up tires. The elite racers get their tubes all pumped up with Nitrogen before big races. It reduces the weight by 35%.
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Originally Posted by gwhunt23
A shop around here has nitrogen tanks for filling up tires. The elite racers get their tubes all pumped up with Nitrogen before big races. It reduces the weight by 35%.
Hahaha! Reduces the weight from what to what exactly?
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Hahaha! Reduces the weight from what to what exactly?
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Originally Posted by gwhunt23
A shop around here has nitrogen tanks for filling up tires. The elite racers get their tubes all pumped up with Nitrogen before big races. It reduces the weight by 35%.
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Originally Posted by Svr
I see you're trying to validate the myth that triathletes are brain dead from the sustained effort of their sport.
I calculated the 35% difference based on the weight of 1 liter of air/nitrogen. I don't know what the actual weight savings in grams is though, 'cause then you'd have to get into pressure and stuffs.
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Originally Posted by gastro
Hahaha! Reduces the weight from what to what exactly?
[Edit: I need to improve my reading comprehension. I thought that this was for a cars. For bikes, at 120 psi (9 atmospheres), the weight savings per tire would be significantly more in real terms if all things were equal. But a 23mm 700C tire only has a volume of around 250 ml (being very generous) so per set of tires the total volume is 500 ml or roughly 0.02 moles of gas. At 9 atm pressure, you would be looking at a whopping 0.72g of weight savings! I'm not sure if the most strident weight weinie would worry about that amount ]
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