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Old 05-17-06, 04:26 PM   #1
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Behold the $825 Full Suspension

http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/06_dakar.html

Pretty reasonable bike yes?


Seems like a decent deal, comparable to a hardrock comp but in full suspension. So if you're not racing and don't mind the added weight, seems like a good option. Perhaps not. Thoughts?
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Old 05-17-06, 05:15 PM   #2
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yeah, it's components are a comparable to the hardrock comp, but its 225 bucks more expensive... and i dont think you can do much with 90mm or travel. but then again its a fairly good deal for all of that...
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Old 05-17-06, 05:59 PM   #3
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... and i dont think you can do much with 90mm or travel. but then again its a fairly good deal for all of that...
you'd be surprised what you can do on a 90mm travel bike, or even a rigid bike for that matter. it is, after all, about the rider and how they ride it. if he's not going to be hucking off drops all the time, 90mm is fine. that's more of a geometry/light bike build limitation anyhow, not travel. you'd be surprised meybe to see how big a move can be pulled on a rigid bike, too. you can do a lot on a little bike if you're smooth.

gobs of squish on a bike doesn't mean it's going to be a better bike for someone.

(disclaimer: both my bikes have over 5" of travel)
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Good for 825.
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Cant do much with 90mm travel? Odd, there was a time when people were doing all kinds of things on 90mm and less, and they still do. Got a break in the rain today for the first time in like 2 weeks and because everything is mud, i went for a street ride and found some interesting concrete obsticles. My 100mm Tora soaked them up very nicely.
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The Jamis Dakar is a pretty reasonable bike. Generally, if someone is dead set on a full-suspension for under $1000, I recommend it, but I prefer to point them in the direction of hardtails. With the tradeoffs in components in exchange for the rear suspension, I still believe you end up with a better overall ride experience on a hardtail until you pass into 4 digits, at which point the bikes begin to be more oriented toward a specific riding style (XC, all-mountain, dirt-jumping, etc).

Overall, yes. If you're not racing and don't mind the extra weight, it's a decent option.
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Not a bad ride for that price.
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I seem to remember Ryan Leech dropping off a 8-10 foot wall with a Norco Hardtail and 3" travel fork on the Kranked 5 video. Actually all those trials guys with rigid / front suspension bikes do sick drops that I wouldn't do with my dually. It's all in the body-english.

Therefore, enjoy it sir! 90mm is just fine. ALTHOUGH the Jamis Dakar XC is not made tough like the Jamis Dakar XLT. I would take care when doing large drops to flat. Try to drop to transitions. (I don't even know if your in to big drops)

I just built a Dakar XLT that should be finished tomorrow. I will do a full ride report, but I can't wait to see how well it handles.

I have read more than one article that boasts good things about the Dakar suspension.
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yeah, it's components are a comparable to the hardrock comp, but its 225 bucks more expensive... and i dont think you can do much with 90mm or travel. but then again its a fairly good deal for all of that...
If you come to Southern Nevada , I'll show you what a Jamis Dakar is capable of handling . Don't worry , I'll wait for you to catch up after the climbs .
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Old 05-17-06, 08:36 PM   #10
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That's a lot of bike for that kind of cash. The really bad part are the brakes and by the time you get a set of Avid/Hayes Hydros you are at the 1000 dollar mark.
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WTF does how far you can fall on a bike have to do with how good it is. Mtn biking is more then dumb tricks. Some people actually ride their bikes.

And the Dakar is an awesome bike to ride. My buddy recently upgraded from an old hard tail to one of these and is now waxing me up hill and in the flats. Of course he got his for like 6 hundred something.
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The Dakar Sport was the first mountain bike I owned, and I rode it like I stole it for about 3 years, and it kept up with all the punishment I dished out. Was mostly all mountain riding, single track, with me jumping off of anything and everything along the way. When I didnt have time to hit the woods, I rode it around town and hopped off walls, etc. It was a great bike, I'll always have a soft spot for it

Jamis changed their suspension design a year or two back. They used to use an FSR link with the drop outs on the seat stays. They have since stopped paying Specialized royalties and have moved the drop outs to the chain stays. Makes some difference, but it's not the end of the world.

If you want a solid beginner bike, that wont kill the bank account, I'd definately suggest it!
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