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    Mystery Vintage MTBs at Church Sale

    I normally post over on Classic and Vintage but I need some MTB owner expertise. My church has an annual Yard Sale this coming Saturday. We have two mystery vintage MTBs (his and hers) that were donated. As you can see from the pictures they are both white with no decals, head badges, nor even any serial numbers. The only mark I can find is on the Man's (M) just below the seat post clamp. It is a very small "735" (possibly Reynolds or Columbus tubing?). They are lugged steel frames and the lugs and cast dropouts are the same on both. They do not appear to be repainted. The paint on the Man's is very good, the Woman's (W) paint is fair with some scratches.

    The Woman's bike has a chrome front fork, Shimano LF hubs, a Shimano UG 6 speed cassette, Shimano Exage 300CS RD and a Suntour XC Sport 7000 FD, Shimano 200 GS shifters/levers, no name cantilever brakes, Sakae triple crankset, no name alloy rims, and a LaPrade seat post.

    The Man's bike has a painted front fork, Suzue HF hubs, a Suntour(?) 6 speed freewheel, Suntour XCD 6000 Acushift derailleurs, Suntour Acushift shifters/levers, Suntour cantilever brakes, Shimano Biopace triple crankset, Araya alloy rims, and a no name (but nice) seat post.

    Could anyone help us price these bikes? Or if you have an interest in one or both and don't want to see them go sailing out of here for $10, and can make a donation for a good cause, PM me.

    ("M" on each picture = Man's MTB --- "W" on each picture = Woman's MTB)

    Thanks for your help!
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    Those are the new '06 Cannondale Freeride bikes.

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    Hey Pastor Bob, any chance the guys in the Framebuilding forum would recognize those lugs? I looked up the Henry James catalog, but couldn't find any '735' reference there.

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    Looks to me like the lug on the seat tube says "73.5"
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    Waterford Bikes' site says that the flat/'sliced' cap on top of the seatstay was a Schwinn thing. That help you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enduro
    Looks to me like the lug on the seat tube says "73.5"
    I thought that might be a possibility as well. The woman's frame does not have this mark. I should have mentioned there are no holes for head badge screws and the man's bike weighs less than 30 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor
    Waterford Bikes' site says that the flat/'sliced' cap on top of the seatstay was a Schwinn thing. That help you?
    Doug,

    I noticed that the tops of the seat stays look a lot like my Schwinns.
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    Waterford Bikes' site says that the flat/'sliced' cap on top of the seatstay was a Schwinn thing. That help you?
    That treament was pretty common, my old (late 80's/early 90's) junker Univega had the same thing. I think the key is the brake cable in the fame (on the men's). I don't recall too many bikes sporting that feaure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalexei
    I think the key is the brake cable in the fame (on the men's). I don't recall too many bikes sporting that feaure.
    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing - - kind of an elegant treatment. Exept for that, my best guess is a 96-98 Schwinn High Plains. Couldn't find any pict large enough on the web to confirm it, though.

    [EDIT] - - I think I probably meant 86-88 huh? Wrong decade.
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    96-98, I have a 1995 Schwinn High Plains and it's all welded chromoly construction, i'd say mid to late 80's, especially with those component groups
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    Suntour XCD 6000 is around `88 or `89



    That was the closest loking Schwinn I could find, it's an `86 Cimarron
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    this is Schwinn spec sheet up until 1990

    it sounds like (the mens bike ) a 1988 Cimarron with different derailleurs
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    I don't think it is a Schwinn. Have you ever seen a Schwinn that didn't have a serial number?
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    the geometry and such as well as component grouping seem to point to late 80's Schwinn, not saying that it couldn't be something else, but it's easy to make a mountain out of a mole hill
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    atleast look for some other bikes in the 88-90 year range, as that seems to be the age of the components.
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    look at the similarities between the picture i posted and the one you posted there are alot, and the one i posted is an `86 and your is most likely `88 or `89, so it seems that your bike would be a schwinn as far as tube cuts and lugs
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinall91
    96-98, I have a 1995 Schwinn High Plains and it's all welded chromoly construction, i'd say mid to late 80's, especially with those component groups
    I got in a temporary time warp and mixed up my decades

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
    I don't think it is a Schwinn. Have you ever seen a Schwinn that didn't have a serial number?
    I have never seen a Schwiinn w/o a SN as well...

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    as far as Shimano Exage 300LX it seems those are around 1990-1992
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    this is probably a dumb question but did you look on the bottom bracket shell?
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinall91
    this is probably a dumb question but did you look on the bottom bracket shell?
    No question is dumb. Yes, I looked. When I could find no ID decals, I started looking for a serial number. Head tube, rear drop outs, BB, everywhere. That was when I came across the "735" or "73.5." The funny thing is that I'm certain the paint is original. Do you think they just left the decals off?

    The woman's bike arrived sometime this morning while I was out visiting at the hospital. I couldn't believe they were matching his and hers.

    Has any one seen these Suntour brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
    I don't think it is a Schwinn. Have you ever seen a Schwinn that didn't have a serial number?
    Bob, Is it possible the mob used these bikes and filed off the serial numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccobike
    Bob, Is it possible the mob used these bikes and filed off the serial numbers?
    THE MOB! HERE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF NH! I better pack the wife and daughter and move back to Atlanta where it's safer!
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    ATL, safer than NH, that'll be the day, atleast certain parts I suppose, maybe the bikes were stolen and had the #'s taken off and repainted by someone who know what they're doing? I don't know, I still think it's Schwinn.
    "I'm; young enough to know the right car to buy yet grown enough not to put rims on it. I got that 6-deuce, with curtains, so you can't see me and I didn't even have to put tints on it."

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    [QUOTE/]=Has any one seen these Suntour brakes?[/QUOTE]

    Yes I believe those are known as roller cam brakes, predating canti's. Sheldon Brown's website has mention of them

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