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Old 05-28-06, 09:13 PM   #1
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Clipless Pedals

I'm picking up my new bike on wednesday, and I have a couple of questions about clipless pedals. I've never used them and am wondering the advantages/disadvantes of such a system. The stock pedals are Shimano PD-M505 Clipless - what shoes should I get with them?
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Old 05-28-06, 09:41 PM   #2
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Clipless have an advantage in the sense that they keep your feet in the pedals and allow you to push the bike with your feet when cornering and maneuvering the bike a lil better, they also increase pedal efficiency ten fold making them climbs a lot better and overall increase control of the bike and no pedal slips really make them attractice.

However there is a learning curve and not being able to unclip on time could turn into a nasty accident (however, unclipping can become a natural thing (a matter of a second) with practice but sometimes you don't even get a second), also and it may not matter at all to you but it makes learning moves like the bunnyhop useless since you'll be learning them the wrong way and will learn to depend on your legs... additionally its a no no for trials, PERIOD. (although I doubt you are into trials).

Its matter of preference though, I have tried clipless but I don't use them and won't ever, though if I ever get into XC racing, I will definetely learn to like clipless if you know what I mean.
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**** another side of the coin**** if you get the better ones like ATACS, eggbeaters etc. you will have a quicker learning curve , take MUCH less than a second( where the heck did you get it takes a full second Chone?). any clipless will give you better balance, better power,better confidence.
when I first got mine I hated them but wouldnt part with them now as they are second nature and as far as not getting out thats B.S.. I can pop out, and lift my foot as high, as fast as anyone on flats. its a matter of learning.
I use Time ATAC xs carbon and they are as second nature as flats used to be. the last time I rode flats my gonads hurt for days from not being a part of the bike and losing grip , crashing, wracking myself.
I also have not had a shin injury since switching that was bike related
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Clipless pedals will give you more power on both your up and down stroke. You will also have a higher cadence. Just be sure to keep them loose (you can adjust the tension) for the first little while until you are used to them. As far as shoes, it is all about preference. I myself have two pairs, one with a hard soul exclusively for riding but I also a pair of Cannondale walking shoes with clips on them for commuting in the city to the supermarket or the book store etc.

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Clipless pedals will give you more power on both your up and down stroke. You will also have a higher cadence. Just be sure to keep them loose (you can adjust the tension) for the first little while until you are used to them.
using clipless pedals and pedaling in circles (not up and down) at a high cadence is the way to go . I use a very stiff sole shoe for cycling and throw a pair of Teva sandals in my Camelbak for extended walking .
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I would love to own a specialized bg shoes since it look cool but since its very expensive im going for SixSixOne Launch SPD, their design suks but this is the cheapest/good I can get
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The last time I rode flats, my gonads hurt for days from not being a part of the bike and losing grip , crashing, wracking myself.
Just one more reason to go the clipless route . Sorry to laugh at your pain
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You couldn't get me to go without my clipless now. Standard pedals means I have to focus on keeping my feet on the pegs - but with clipless - I and the bike are one. I also don't seem to have any issue at all about coming off the bike fast enough. Yes - I have had crash and burns - and my feet never were attached, I came out just fine.

But, I assure you, there have been times that without that oneness with the bike, I would have had the feet going one way, and the bike another and not been able to recover in time. I suspect the solidness with the bike gives you more control.

The ability to just spin up hills because of the increase efficiency of the clipless is great too.

I was a bit fearful of clipless when I started too - but my bike came with them and I felt I should give them a try. I am sure glad I did.
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I would love to own a specialized bg shoes since it look cool but since its very expensive

I have the Specialized BG Sport MTB Shoe and love them. Around $75. I mainly use them on my road bike because I like the fact that you can still walk around in them. I have my road and mountain bikes setup for them. They are stiffer than most mountain bike shoes and have the body geometry technology that trickled down from the higher end shoes. I just started using clipless this year and would never go without now.
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The stock pedals are Shimano PD-M505 Clipless - what shoes should I get with them?
If you are going with the Shimano pedals, just get any shoe that is SPD compatible (pretty much any MTB shoe). The guys at the bike shop should be able to help you but the final choice will be based on what's comfortable for you and what you can afford.
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Just one more reason to go the clipless route . Sorry to laugh at your pain
no need, I say that as a warning that like crtreedude said there are times that on my old bmx pedals I would have gotten hurt and yet I was able to make the mistake due to better power, control, balance and pedal modulation.
I will also say that in any of my mishaps that I couldnt avoid hitting dirt with body, that somewhere between "oh" and "$*i!" I came unclipped. Ive only gotten stuck once and that was because my leg got caught in the chain after hitting the ground and I couldnt get loose so I had to drag me and the bike off the trail because there were some guys behind me coming up fast into a blind spot where I was stuck. it was funny as heck after getting off the trail to think about.
clipless are your friend once you get used to them
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I use SPD's , and love them . I seem to sample the soil often , but I don't think that having platform pedals would help me any . It's going to sting a bit anytime you endo into rocks or cacti .
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like I say, I would really LOVE TO OWN a specialized BG Comp Shoe cause it looks cool
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when i started riding a year ago, my friends pushed me to go clipless from the start. i did and am glad i did. with practice, you'll get in and out of them in no time. at the outset, i had a couple of crashes that were in part caused by my not getting a leg out in time, but now, that is rare. i even had the bike pitch forward one time. i thought for sure i was going head first over the handlebars. i managed to unclip and land on my feet with the bike crashing down next to me. getting in and out of them becomes second nature.
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Thanks for the discussion, I appreciate the input of experienced riders. I think I will buy some other pedals, get comfortable on my bike, then give clipless a try.
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clipless choices

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Thanks for the discussion, I appreciate the input of experienced riders. I think I will buy some other pedals, get comfortable on my bike, then give clipless a try.
Hey,
As you can see clipless well inherit the world. I got my first set many yrs ago and thought they were crap. Felt like I was riding on ice cubes. I sent away for a pair of replacement cleats and found that I had installed the originals upside down. Hence, they never clipped in. The shimano's have an adjustment for release tension. Start pretty loose and increase as needed. I've bought a few rocks and cactus from not getting clipped out. I just got a set of Crank Brother eggbeaters. They don't have a tension adjustment,you set the tension by which shoe you put the special cleat on. They worked great and are about half the weight of the shimano's. Also, shimano's will ice up if you are riding in the cold. Good luck,Frogge.
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Old 05-30-06, 03:42 PM   #17
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I think that the system that Crankbrothers have is far better than the SPD one. IMHO, "night and day" since I now have about 5 rides on my new Mallets and am kicking my self for not getting them right from the start.

As for shoes.... I have a pair of Shimano SPD SH-M071s.
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I have a set of Shimano M180s for most rides and a pair of 661 Nuevos for the more extreme stuff and Time Atac xs carbon pedals

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